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SCUBA
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 Posted - 12/18/2009 : 6:17:06 PM
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lastly, and i'm at times guilty of this as well, heck even my last post has some aspects of this but my anger is related to the initial implication that the IHL is above the ECHL. Certainly smarter heads prevail.
I also contend that on the message board level, I Don't have a clue what happens at a "Cincinnati hockey insider" level, Skirmishes between two factions are started by THAT side and not OUR side. why cannot we conduct ourselves behind the computer screen like we would conduct ourselves in person?..
Donnie, interesting to see you one day walk up to coach W and drop the "the Lumberjacks are better coached, and a better team than the one you coached to win the cup. Oh and really you suck as a coach and haven't a shot at any level above the ECHL. which at times has been the other sides contentions. I no way, no how ever see that happening, and really it's more an insult than an opinion and solely intended to pi$$ off everyone here. How about calling some of our AHL guys up now "career minor league-ers" in person of course. Tell the players they have no hope of getting to the show. That might indeed be true, not getting to the NHL, but you really don't have any control of that. Try dropping the "your nothing more than a bar tender or burger-flipper to Syro, or TJ or anyone from the Cup year.
lastly, I've just gone off, ticked off. I've heard from THAT side that their observations are true and factual and they are just stating facts, and the facts and truth hurts...that's what pi$$es me off. The fact that the ANTI-CLONE side just post here not to contrubute anything meaningful to the discussions, they post just to tick off everyone. It's one thing to post your different opinions, but the reasons about posting the opinions is what I have a problem with....that was most certainly a temper-tantrum
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Donnie Hockey
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1514 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2009 : 8:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by SCUBA
Didn't rumpkie pick up all your Duck/Cyclones stuff you set out on the curb? I thought I read that someplace
A lot but not all. The of timing your question is perfect as I was going through more stuff today that will be donated to Rumpke before Christmas.
Went through a box today that had posters of Biggs, Lawless, Hynes, Richer, Barrault, Cichocki, Eakins, Serowik, Cirone, LeBeau, Barrie, Reddick, Greenlaw and Hayward that were inserted in the game programs, all still in mint condition. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 12/18/2009 8:52:09 PM |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
584 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2009 : 10:31:16 PM
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Originally posted by Donnie Hockey
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Originally posted by SCUBA
Didn't rumpkie pick up all your Duck/Cyclones stuff you set out on the curb? I thought I read that someplace
A lot but not all. The of timing your question is perfect as I was going through more stuff today that will be donated to Rumpke before Christmas.
Went through a box today that had posters of Biggs, Lawless, Hynes, Richer, Barrault, Cichocki, Eakins, Serowik, Cirone, LeBeau, Barrie, Reddick, Greenlaw and Hayward that were inserted in the game programs, all still in mint condition.
I've thrown away recently game programs from first year.....thrown away a calendar that had the 1990 or so team dressed in long long cowboy like coats holding what looked like toy shotguns....lots of long hair and mustaches and what appeared to be....Mullets
Over the years have just collected to much junk. Junk in the sense that it was just lying around as opposed to being real junk. looking back through it all was cool but as life has gone along i certainly have had different priorities. I think we had about 40 or so game worns, Now just 4....Degray gamer, Lawless St. Patricks, Mcdonald Kelly Cup white jersey, and Dionne black gamer...don't see me getting rid of those....I hope that before throwing that stuff away you at least looked through it all and remembered good times? |
Edited by - SCUBA on 12/18/2009 10:32:33 PM |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/18/2009 : 11:01:43 PM
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Originally posted by SCUBA
I hope that before throwing that stuff away you at least looked through it all and remembered good times?
No, I did not. I didn't need to look through any of it to remember it all. |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/18/2009 : 11:07:16 PM
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Originally posted by SCUBA
Donnie, interesting to see you one day walk up to coach W and drop the "the Lumberjacks are better coached, and a better team than the one you coached to win the cup. Oh and really you suck as a coach and haven't a shot at any level above the ECHL.
I never said Weber was not a good coach. You might want to get your facts straight before you go off on one of your fifth-grade level rampages. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 12/18/2009 11:08:44 PM |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
584 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2009 : 11:11:15 PM
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| Those times....early 1993-1994-1995, good times for me....I remember working with Scott Thomas's wife Sue, we were nurses together at a local Hospital, Scott left us one year nearly the equivelent of season tickets at will call one year....not exactly certain the year |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
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584 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2009 : 11:16:04 PM
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| No maybe not outright did you say that, I think that the implication that one might get compairing the lumberjacks coach out coaching Weber considering the IHL is at a lower league....your remark most certainly at the very least insulting, to Weber and folks who actually think he is a great coach. At times he has very little to work with and somehow is able to make it work...make no mistake, the implication was most certainly there....don't kid yourself. |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 12/18/2009 : 11:33:21 PM
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I was certain at one time you said that Weber wasn't a coach that the AHL or NHL would want. I even went over to the other message board and you know what,your right you never said that. Citizen did, and I have always gotten you two mixed up...my bad.
and My 5th grade rants are caused by my inability to figure you out Dude......Ok i'm done, not going to talk about Cincy hockey again....wait i'm back.....no, now i'm leaving never to talk about Cincy hockey again...wait i'm back...i'm gone again...back,gone,back |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/18/2009 : 11:49:28 PM
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Originally posted by SCUBA
and My 5th grade rants are caused by my inability to figure you out Dude......Ok i'm done, not going to talk about Cincy hockey again....wait i'm back.....no, now i'm leaving never to talk about Cincy hockey again...wait i'm back...i'm gone again...back,gone,back
It's simple: People on this board keep inviting me back. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 12/18/2009 11:50:54 PM |
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hrc666
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Posted - 12/19/2009 : 04:06:27 AM
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Having just witnessed a 2-1 OT snoozefest Friday evening in Dayton between Muskegon and Dayton, I can honestly state that I've never been drunk enough nor prone to evaluating talent so poorly that I could ever come to the conclusion that the 2009-10 Muskegon Lumberjacks were a better team than the 2008 Kelly Cup Champion Cincinnati Cyclones.
In fact, the number one line for Muskegon of Robinson, Bouchard and DiPace would have been challenged to be the 3rd line on the KC Champ Cyclones.
The puck movement on the Dayton power play makes me think that Jason Jozsa could be the second coming of Paul Coffey. |
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"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
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somebeach
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Posted - 12/19/2009 : 12:19:28 PM
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Originally posted by Donnie Hockey
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Originally posted by SCUBA
and My 5th grade rants are caused by my inability to figure you out Dude......Ok i'm done, not going to talk about Cincy hockey again....wait i'm back.....no, now i'm leaving never to talk about Cincy hockey again...wait i'm back...i'm gone again...back,gone,back
It's simple: People on this board keep inviting me back.
I enjoy DonnnieHockey's posts. He knows hockey. I would take his word over anybody else's. Also, he is a friend of mine. Known him for years (when I say years I mean even before the Cyclones were here). |
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/19/2009 : 1:01:11 PM
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Muskegon was forced to dress two fewer skaters than Dayton due to injuries and had to play two of their better forwards on defense. But despite having to play with a short bench the Lumberjacks still found a way to skate out of Hara Arena with two points.
The Lumberjacks, who improved their league-best record to 17-5-0-3 (.740 winning percentage) with the two-game series sweep at Dayton, travel to Bloomington for a 7:05 game tonight.
All the exciting play-by-play accounts and descriptions of tonight's shindig can be heard at www.muskegonlumberjacks.com with the voice of the winningest pro hockey team in Michigan, Terry Ficorelli.
BTW...not only do the Lumberjacks have a better record than the Cyclones (.740 to .596), they have have a better website, too! So does Bloomington, Fort Wayne, Port Huron, Quad City and Flint. The Cyclones website is at least on par with Dayton's. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 12/19/2009 1:19:31 PM |
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elvis77
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Posted - 12/19/2009 : 2:28:49 PM
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hmmm since the notion of the lumberjacks being able to beat the the KCC cyclones......
the lumberjacks are 17-5-0-3, the 07-08 cyclones went 17-6-1-1 through 25 games, i would hardly call that enough of a difference to justify saying they are hands down better than the KCC cyclones. the cyclones went 55-12-5 (.799) that season, so muskegon will have to hit 60 wins to rival that same winning percentage, we'll see.
ok, the lumberjacks coach managed to win a game with a depleted lineup but from january 13th through febuary 29th 2008 the cyclones won 17 consecutive games using multiple lineups do to injuries and call-ups, including the loss of both dov grumet-morris and cedrick desjardins to ahl call-ups. the 07-08 cyclones, while posting one of the leagues best road records also went a span of 21 games, from november 28, '07 to march 12, '08 without losing a home game in regulation. also, at times during the season used forwards scott reynolds and billy irish-baker as defensemen. so it seems to me chuck is a more than capable coach, who did interview for the hamilton job this summer, so he is on the AHL radar.
the bottom line is to compare two team from to different leagues really isn't possible. both sides are presenting fair points of information. however, can throw out all the team and player stats you want, veteran players versus young players, etc, but since the opponents aren't the same it doesn't really mean squat. this whole argument is a case of he said, he said. cyclones fans obviously have their feelings and donnie has his. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 12/20/2009 : 02:02:04 AM
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[i]Originally posted by elvis77
the bottom line is to compare two team from to different leagues really isn't possible. both sides are presenting fair points of information. however, can throw out all the team and player stats you want, veteran players versus young players, etc, but since the opponents aren't the same it doesn't really mean squat. this whole argument is a case of he said, he said. cyclones fans obviously have their feelings and donnie has his.
Elvis,
One side has an agenda and suffers from *see my signature*
While most comparisons always contain some subjective elements, this comparison (Musk vs. KCC Clones) contains a lot of objective components.
A simple check of the Cyclones KC playoff roster and Muskegon's current roster will reveal the absurdity of dh's claims.
At least half of the Clones playoff roster has gone on to be regulars in the AHL. Muskegon's roster is clearly inferior. It's not even close.
Only a fool would even suggest Muskegon superiority. And he has. |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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Edited by - hrc666 on 12/20/2009 02:02:51 AM |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/20/2009 : 10:46:00 AM
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Originally posted by hrc666
A simple check of the Cyclones KC playoff roster and Muskegon's current roster will reveal the absurdity of dh's claims.
At least half of the Clones playoff roster has gone on to be regulars in the AHL. Muskegon's roster is clearly inferior. It's not even close.
Only a fool would even suggest Muskegon superiority. And he has.
The Horse Racing Chump (that's what hrc stands for) might be right. He might be wrong. Since games have never been played on paper we'll never know.
What we do know is this: Despite having listed as many as five defensemen either on the shelf or on player recall to the AHL sabbatical, the Lumberjacks have not been deterred nor derailed whatsoever. In fact, all of the adversity circumscribing this team appears to have galvanized them in a very positive, affirmative way. The club has soared to No. 2 in the IHL defensively with a GAA of an ever-evaporating 2.42. Over the past four games, the Jacks denying defense has grudgingly surrendered a minuscule six goals-against for a GAA of 1.50. Furthermore, through their first eight games in December, Muskegon has permitted a paltry 15 goals-against for a GAA of 1.87.
Offensively, in recent vintage, the Jacks continue to lead the league with 90 goals for a GFA of 3.48. In a touch of irony, though they are the highest scoring offensive operation in the IHL, the Jacks have accumulated the least number of shots in the IHL with a per game average of 27.7. Through their initial 26-outings, the Muskegonites have allotted more than three goals-against only twice all season.
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 12/20/2009 11:57:13 AM |
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