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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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 Posted - 05/16/2010 : 08:01:56 AM
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How did Jeremy Smith go from the savior for the first two and a half
rounds to being a door attendant on the bench? Didn't he save the day
in game 6 when Mayer couldn't stop anything to now watching 3 straight
games? First off, Mayer has done a great job in game 7 and now in games
1 and 2, but doesn't Smith deserve to at least start game 3 back here in
Cincinnati ! The defense is what is doing the job for the goalies and it
would be a crime if Mayer is left in, we won, and Smith doesn't get a
chance to play in the finals. We are not talking about EBUG Lee ( who does
deserve a shot sometime in a game), but instead the goalie that was our
only choice for the first two rounds. |
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Cyclonesfan28
(Rookie)
USA
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 09:12:56 AM
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| Smith was just tired from all the action, playing in 17 straight games before getting a break. All he needed was a break. Right now, Mayer is hot and should be sticking with him. I don't think Smith will care when and if he plays as long as he wins a ring. Thats the bigger issue here. |
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JK_112880
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 09:22:38 AM
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| No one has forgotten Smith. Without him the Clones wouldn't have even gotten out of the first round. No doubt, they are where they are because of Jeremy Smith. I would bet that if you asked that question to anyone on the Cyclones team, they would agree with me. |
Edited by - JK_112880 on 05/16/2010 09:23:35 AM |
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cycfan
(The Next Level!)
243 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 09:35:26 AM
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| I agree, I think Smith will do whatever it takes to win a ring. He did his part and his part was huge for this team. Mayer has the hot glove right now, so you play him. I don't think Jeremy will care as long as he gets to hoist the Cup in the next week. |
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jsun51
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 09:50:54 AM
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| When the clones won game 7 of the Conference finals, Smith was one of the first ones out to congratulate (and mob) Mayer. I have to agree... I think he just wants the team to win! |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 1:28:13 PM
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| Whoever is in net when we clinch is the man who is in the net when we clinch. I am sure that Jeremy Smith is rooting for Robert Mayer just as badly as the other would the other if the situation was in reverse. Best player plays... as in all sports... its a scenario that while tragic will always play out. |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 1:31:13 PM
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| In an adder to that, remember that Dov Grumet-Morris was 20-3-1 in 2007-08, but when it came down to playoff time it was Ced. Dov was one of the first to mob Ced as well after Game Six, and I am sure the ring was well worth the backup role... and yes I know Ced was the starting goalie on opening night that year and Dov was the goalie while Ced got called up... still! |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
Boards + visitors = broken bones! |
Edited by - cMan2KellyCup on 05/16/2010 1:33:59 PM |
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 1:37:19 PM
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Sorry Bags, but I couldn't disagree with you more.
Coach Weber has a game plan and knows exactly what he wants to do. I am confident Jeremy will see action at the appropriate time and place. Everyone (including Jeremy) knows we would NEVER have got this far without him. He is far from forgotten and hardly a door man.
We may be up 2 games to none, but this thing is far from over. We only have to think back one series to not doubt that. |
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Edited by - cloneinator on 05/16/2010 1:38:26 PM |
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mheck13
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 1:45:02 PM
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I give both Smith and Mayer due respect. Since Mayer was in Hamilton until the Conference Finals, there was no choice in the matter. I think overall if Smith was not on the team, I'm not sure how we may have gotten into the playoffs. Mayer had struggled early on but has improved greatly. I'm just glad that they are both on the team and able to help both each other and the team with their presence in goal.
FYI, Smith has a playoff record of 9-7-1, a 2.67 GAA, 90.7% save perc, and 1 shutout. Mayer has a playoff record of 4-0, a 1.17 GAA, 95.2%, and 3 shutouts. As a result, I would not start Smith until Mayer is in trouble.
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Cyclones hockey. A championship caliber team in a city of losers. |
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elvis77
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 1:49:22 PM
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cMan, Dov wasn't on the Kelly Cup Roster that year. He was in MKE. You're thinking of Max Daigneault but same difference. At this point, everyone is important. As far as 07-08 goes though. When you look at the season. Dov was a huge part of that season, as was Cody Rudkowski neither of which were around for the playoffs.
Anyways, back to Jeremy. I said it over on CycWords but I'll say it again here. Jeremy's efforts will not be forgotten. He IS the reason the Boys have made it this far. However, playing that many games without rest as a rookie is going to take it toll. If the rumors about how much weight he's lost are true, that makes for a lot of fatigue and fatigue leads to soft goals (think Cedrick in 2007, he was just appeared to be gassed by the end of the Dayton Series.) Robbie is fresh and he has only allowed two goals (both legit, semi-break away and a redirect) in 6 periods of play against one the most potent offenses in the League. Personally, I think he continues to get the starts. However, just as he did in Game 6 against Reading Chuck will have a short leash and if he doesn't look sharp he'll get pulled. Should that happen, I'm sure Jeremy will be ready to save the day again. |
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hrc666
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 2:53:06 PM
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I was just thinking a little ahead and wondering who would be named the playoff MVP. The Cyclones really haven't had any major standouts offensively; everyone has contributed just enough. But if one had to pick the top offensive contributors it would be a coin flip between Eghoetz and Sproat. But neither has the numbers typically associated with an MVP. They both do have many extremely key goals and/or assists each.
It would seem that the MVP would almost have to come from the defensive side of the equation. The core defensemen (Sheehan, Motherwell, Josza, Roeder, O'Hanley) have all played extremely solidly throughout the playoffs, but solid and steady types don't get MVP awards generally.
This team has been carried by its goaltending. Without EITHER of the two, the season would have been long over. I think a shared-MVP between Smith and Mayer (assuming Cyclone KC victory) is the only route for the voters to go.
The point of this is not to jinx the Clones or get too far ahead, but to assess the contribution of Smith. Everyone who has followed the playoff run knows that without JS, the Cyclones season would have ended in early April. Mayer is the man as of RIGHT NOW, but that could change in an instant. Smith is certainly not going unappreciated by knowledgeable fans, his teammates, nor the coaching staff.
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taoistlumberjak
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 3:02:13 PM
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Eghoetz is, at this moment, MVP by default. Nobody has stood head and shoulders above the rest. You could give it to both goalies, but not really either of them individually. So, it has to be Eghoetz.
5 games left scheduled in the series, though. Don't want to fall into the Reading trap. |
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JK_112880
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 4:14:34 PM
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Originally posted by taoistlumberjak
5 games left scheduled in the series, though. Don't want to fall into the Reading trap.
IMO, we don't need to worry about the Reading trap. The Cyclones are a lot tougher mentally than Reading could ever hope to be. They wouldn't be 8-1 in 1-goal games in the playoffs and 6-0 in elimination games if they weren't. Plus, look at who the coach is. Weber will not let this team go on autopilot. They could get beaten in the next four games, but it won't be because of a lack of heart, desire or effort. |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 4:18:48 PM
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Originally posted by elvis77
cMan, Dov wasn't on the Kelly Cup Roster that year. He was in MKE. You're thinking of Max Daigneault but same difference. At this point, everyone is important. As far as 07-08 goes though. When you look at the season. Dov was a huge part of that season, as was Cody Rudkowski neither of which were around for the playoffs.
Thank you, Elvis... it WAS Daigneault, for some reason I thought it was Dov... I think the best talent Chuck ever spewed out included a majority of the goalies weve had... Dov, Ced, Rudkowski, and now Smith and Mayer... a great compliment for other Cyclones greats like Chad Starling, JM Daoust, Barrett Eghotz, Mark VanGuilder, etc. etc. etc... |
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AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
2224 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 5:20:51 PM
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Originally posted by cMan2KellyCup
Whoever is in net when we clinch is the man who is in the net when we clinch. I am sure that Jeremy Smith is rooting for Robert Mayer just as badly as the other would the other if the situation was in reverse. Best player plays... as in all sports... its a scenario that while tragic will always play out.
Okay if you go by that logic-why was Mayer in goal for game 7 ? I will give
Mayer all the credit in the world but I do hope Smith gets at least one
game in goal before the end.
As for our MVP of the playoffs- win or lose I go with Barrett Eghotz. Unless
Smith comes back to win the last two games of this series I can't give it
to Mayer or Smith. The job of the defensemen has been unbelievable since
going down 3-0 to Reading. If they had stepped it up earlier, alot of gray
hairs and ulcers by the fans could have been avoided ! |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 6:01:13 PM
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Originally posted by bags
As for our MVP of the playoffs- win or lose I go with Barrett Eghotz.
I couldnt agree with you more completely. The playoff MVP award awards four rounds worth of effort... I couldnt think of a better MVP than our captain... solid gameplay and stats (nine goals cant be wrong!), incredible leadership, spectacular effort and aggression... all you can ask of a player... Dustin Sproat could be a wild card MVP pick should we win... and Mayer deserves a little chatter... but neither have what Barrett brings to the table! |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
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