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Donnie Hockey
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 Posted - 06/09/2010 : 9:40:02 PM
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| Chuck Weber has been interviewed by the St. Louis Blues to fill the opening for a head coach of the AHL Peoria Rivermen. The Blues have also interviewed three other ECHL coaches concerning the vacancy. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 06/09/2010 9:46:37 PM |
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Randy
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Posted - 06/09/2010 : 10:49:58 PM
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| From what source? Santa Claus? |
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hrc666
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 02:58:33 AM
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http://www.google.com/search?q=chuck+weber+%2B+peoria&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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The Blues have interviewed several ECHL candidates to fill their vacancy in Peoria including Cincy's Chuck Weber and Idaho's Derek Laxdal ...
hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=26205401 - 12 hours ago
I just did a quick "google" and this was on HF boards (a hockey message board) at least 6 hours before it was (unsourced) mentioned here.
Nothing special about the information posted on this thread. Very common knowledge evidently.
I'd think that Weber would have a real good chance in the St. Louis organization. The Blues coach-Davis Payne-was in the ECHL just a few years ago with the Alaska Aces. He was promoted to Peoria and became the Blues' coach last season.
Beneath is Payne's coaching and playing background:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4198
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LJHammons
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 09:42:46 AM
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| The announced on the radio (96.5) this morning that Weber has been interviewed by no less than 6 NHL teams... they also made point to mention that the number didnt include the AHL interviews he has had. |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 10:39:05 AM
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NHL teams conduct the interviews for the openings in the AHL.
My source was a member of the St. Louis Blues organization. The Blues would be a great organization for Weber to be a part of. They have a lot of really good people involved such as John Davidson, Kevin McDonald, and of course, former Cincinnati Mighty Ducks head coach Brad Shaw. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 2:29:24 PM
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Originally posted by LJHammons
The announced on the radio (96.5) this morning that Weber has been interviewed by no less than 6 NHL teams... they also made point to mention that the number didnt include the AHL interviews he has had.
Going, Going....................
I would hope that Weber will take an assistant AHL coaching position if a head coaching position isn't offered. His stock as an ECHL coach has topped off-it's not going to get any higher.
It's time for him to go. As much as we all love Weber and the Cyclones, the ECHL (and Cincinnati) is a relative hockey backwater. It's a stepping stone for a guy like Weber; it's not a career destination.
Davis Payne (who won the KC in 2006 with Alaska) took an assistant position with Peoria and was named head coach one year later and now is the coach of the STL Blues.
Mike Haviland-who also won 2 KCs (Trenton, Atlantic City) in 4 years- was given the head coaching position at Norfolk in the AHL and earned a Stanley Cup ring last night as an assistant coach for the Blackhawks.
Glen Gulatzan (the LV coach whom Weber defeated in 2008) got a head coaching position (Texas AHL) as well and is 2 games away from winning the Calder Cup right now.
Jerad Bednar-who won the KC in 2009 with SC- was an asst. coach in Abbortsford (AHL) this past season.
Either route (AHL asst or AHL head) offers Weber the opportunity to showcase his talents in the NHL some day. He must, however, make a move now. He's going through (and has gone through in the past) enough interviews to make it pretty clear that he hasn't been categorized as a career AA coach like Martinson or Cameron, but the time has come to "get the show on the road", if you will, regarding advancement.
It seems pretty clear that Weber will excel in the AHL in player developement and competitively, so I don't fault him for holding out for a head coaching position. I hope that he is named an AHL head coach in the coming weeks.
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"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 6:58:34 PM
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If I were Weber, I wouldn't go the assistant route. For some becoming an assistant coach in the AHL leads to a promotion to a head coaching position but most of the time it has been when there is a firing in the middle of the season at the NHL level and the AHL coach gets promoted which opens the door for the assistant to take over the AHL squad, like Todd Reirden in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton in 2008-09 when Dan Byslma was promoted to Pittsburgh.
If a good college job were to become available, Weber would be perfect for that. He's a good recruiter, a skill that wouldn't be utilized in the AHL. |
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dtwells
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Posted - 06/10/2010 : 7:00:29 PM
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| ^^ exactly. He does great here b/c he has, mostly, free reign of the roster. AHL will hamper that. Not saying he would be bad, but it would be a wasted talent. |
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dbc
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 10:06:03 AM
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| Donnie. Do you have an idea of what the different salary levels might be for an ass't in the AHL and a head coach in the ECHL? Hopefully the Cyclones have taken care of him as best they can financially and he is the best paid coach in this league, but wondered if a move to the AHL ass't position would be up, down, or flat financially? I think he would prefer the head job here to an ass't job there finances aside, but he also needs to ask himself, as hrc pointed out, what more can he really prove here? Not sure 3 cups would get him more noticed etc than these 2 have. Hate to say it but the bottom line is I think he has outgrown the ECHL and its time to move on. Peoria head coach would be wonderful. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 2:43:59 PM
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I've heard/read these numbers:
AA head coach: $50-75000
AAA head coach: $100,000+
I haven't any idea about assistants although I once made a comment about an assistant coach in the ECHL making $40k to someone and they repeated that to Stan Drulia (who was then an assistant with the Toledo Storm) and he replied, "I wish".
I would think that Weber would likely stay at the same pay and perhaps even take a bit of a pay cut to be an assistant coach at the AHL level. In any case, his compensation level would be very similar should he go to the AHL as an asst. from what I can determine. |
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hrc666
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Posted - 06/15/2010 : 02:28:34 AM
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Peoria job goes to former SC Stingray head coach:
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x767636592/New-coach-in-line-for-Rivermen
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The St. Louis Blues have hired Bednar to be the next head coach of the Peoria Rivermen, according to NHL and AHL sources. The NHL parent club is expected to finalize a multi-year contract and announce the deal as soon as Tuesday.
Bednar, 38, rose from the ECHL ranks to an assistant coaching spot last season with AHL Abbotsford.
Bednar went the assistant route in the AHL and only had to wait one year before getting a head coaching job. Same thing for Davis Payne.
I doubt that this is lost on Weber. |
"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 06/15/2010 : 10:08:56 AM
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| Weber ended up being the third choice for the job behind Bednar and Laxdal. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 06/15/2010 10:11:43 AM |
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hrc666
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Posted - 06/15/2010 : 2:04:11 PM
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@ Jim.
Most boards require posters to give sources when they make claims.
Given that this poster has a long history of false claims (I recently posted a partial list of these), I would think that some form of verification of his "claims" should apply.
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Randy
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Posted - 06/15/2010 : 2:49:07 PM
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Originally posted by hrc666
@ Jim.
Most boards require posters to give sources when they make claims.
Given that this poster has a long history of false claims (I recently posted a partial list of these), I would think that some form of verification of his "claims" should apply.
You didn't know...? Donnie is the one that gave the interview |
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 06/15/2010 : 5:07:03 PM
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| Don't worry, Joe. Weber may get an AHL job. Or he may not. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 06/15/2010 5:10:56 PM |
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hrc666
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Posted - 06/16/2010 : 02:48:17 AM
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Originally posted by Donnie Hockey
Don't worry, Joe. Weber may get an AHL job. Or he may not.
It's not about that and it's not if you know either way. It's about verifying one's info.
It's not a difficult concept.
If your previous postings had been accurate on the whole, then your claims could be taken with some degree of credibility.
But, as anyone who has followed your claims knows, you are almost always wrong so you lack credibility so, therefore, anything you claim that you know needs to be verified.
Get it? As I wrote earlier, it's not a difficult concept.
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"The only way David Desharnais will see an NHL game is if he buys a ticket".
--donnie hockey
"David Desharnais will be invisible during 5 on 5 hockey. IN THE AHL"
--donnie hockey
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Edited by - hrc666 on 06/16/2010 02:53:21 AM |
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