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jevers
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Posted - 11/05/2011 :  11:47:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit jevers's Homepage
CINCINNATI, Ohio – For the second consecutive evening, the Chicago Express (5-2-0-0) grabbed the extra point from the Cincinnati Cyclones (1-3-0-2) in a shootout, winning by a 3-2 final score in front of 6,993 at U.S. Bank Arena on Saturday night.

Chicago broke the scoreless tie at the 15:39 mark when Dan Henningson’s point shot snuck through Cyclones goaltender Tyler Plante (L, 25 saves, 0-0-0-2) to give the visiting Express a 1-0 lead after 20 minutes of hockey.

In a wild second period, the Cyclones were able to knot the score when Daniel Koger found Mathieu Aubin with a beautiful pass from behind the net, who then buried his third goal of the season past Chicago goalie Rob Nolan (W, 21 saves, 3-2-0-0) at the 3:59 mark. At 9:11, a full-scale melee ensued in the Cincinnati zone as 18 minutes of penalties were handed out, yet surprisingly, no power plays resulted. Just a few seconds later, Aaron Marvin took a wrist shot that trickled past Plante for the go-ahead goal at 9:29. At the end of two periods of play, the Express held a 2-1 cushion.

As time wound down in the third period, the Cyclones were given a power play when Blair Riley was issued a hooking minor. During the advantage, Aubin found defenseman Maury Edwards at the point who blasted in his first goal as a Cyclone with just 4:32 left to play in regulation, tying the score at two.

Just like last night, the teams were unable to find the game-winner in regulation and in overtime; so the game was once again decided in a shootout. After failing to score on their first two chances, the Express lit the lamp twice as Kyle Ostrow and Yannick Tifu found the net. And when Nolan stopped A.J. Jenks’ fifth-round try, the Express sealed the 3-2 victory.

The Cyclones Radio Network Three Stars of the Game are as follows:

First Star: Yannick Tifu (Game winning goal in shootout for Chicago)
Second Star: Mathieu Aubin (1 goal, 1 assist for Cincinnati)
Third Star: Maury Edwards (1 goal for Cincinnati)

The same two teams will collide next Friday night at the Sears Center as their 16-game season series continues. Pregame coverage on the Cyclones Radio Network (1050-AM, America One) will get underway at 8:15pm ET with the opening face-off dropping at 8:30pm ET.

The Cyclones will return to U.S. Bank Arena next Saturday night for Military Appreciation Night against the Trenton Devils at 7:30pm. Cincinnati will wear specialty jerseys that will be auctioned off after the game in addition to FREE Cyclones Car Magnets given to every fan in attendance. Secure your seats now by calling 513.421.PUCK or log on to CyclonesHockey.com. Fans can also get the latest team updates throughout the season on Facebook and Twitter (@CincyCyclones).


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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)

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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  09:51:45 AM  Show Profile
First impressions vs last year: 1)More talent then last year and no one stood out as being over their head. 2)Much more aggressive on PK and much better puck movement on PP. 3) Exasperating watching two soft goals given up but goalie situation is still fluid and am hopeful a Plante/Pickard duo could be strong. 4) Our system still makes us very vulnerable to strong forechecking. Skalde I guess insists on a slow methodical system of getting the puck out of our end and does little to forecheck them in their end. Would like to see having his forwards come back down low for a team breakout rather than station them by the blue line waiting for the defense to figure out how to get the puck out to them along the boards. That would allow us tp play a more north-south breakout game and perhaps just once carry the puck into the offensive zone away from the boards. Bottom line: seems to be a lot more talent and jury is out as to whether they can win with such a conservative full strength system.
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Cyclonesdiehard
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  11:39:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Cyclonesdiehard's Homepage
The crowd was really into the game. It was a fun evening, and I really liked the new video boards, and the kids liked the Twister blow up in the NE corner. Great times need to win though!

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Catch22
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  12:08:36 PM  Show Profile
Lots of individual talent but no real "team" play going on. Missed passes, Dmen running into each other, lack of communication, etc.

I'm not a fan of a revolving door of AHL talent for exactly this reason. If you looked closely at the roster last night there were TWO GUYS that had played all 5 games. TWO GUYS!!!
It showed on the ice.

And while Plante did give up a couple of soft ones he also made some serious quality saves and clearly channels his inner Marty Turco. I've never seen a goalie get his gloves/mask off that fast and start throwing punches before. Ever.
Hopefully we can get some stability and grow something from that attitude.

And we need a captain. The "Three A" thing is a complete copout and I'm pretty sure no hockey team in the history of the game has won a cup with three As on the ice. If there isn't anyone on the roster that has demonstrated the leadership to deserve the "C" you damned well shouldn't have gotten rid of the one you had.
Pick a captain dammit.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.

Edited by - Catch22 on 11/06/2011 12:11:11 PM
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BP2011
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  12:38:58 PM  Show Profile
I thought they played really well but it seemed that they were playing in slow motion in transition. I also think that they hesitated a lot when in the zone and that cost some good shots and scoring chances. Murhpy gave up a lot of calls but in the end that doesnt count of course, but if I was the AHL I would not give Murphy shot at a full time ref next year.

Actually in 2007-2008 Chuck had MacDonald, Starling and Egho as three A's, so yes we won the cup with three A's.

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Catch22
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  2:01:18 PM  Show Profile
I'm pretty sure Starling wore the C that year.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.
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Cyclonesdiehard
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  3:25:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cyclonesdiehard's Homepage
I don't think he did. I know he wore it the next year though.

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elvis77
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  3:58:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit elvis77's Homepage  Send elvis77 an AOL message
@ Catch22, Your beliefs are wrong and as such are calling Chuck Weber a cop out.

Chad wore the C in 06-07.

In the 07-08 season the Chuck played the whole season without a player wearing the C instead choosing to rotate the three A's.

Even in the playoffs the Chuck opted for 3 A's rather than assigning a Captain.

Chad did not play here after the 08 Championship season.

Here is a basic logical proof for you:

The Cyclones are a hockey team.
If there is no assigned "Captain" then there are 3 "Assistant Captains"
The Cyclones did not have an assigned "Captain" during the 07-08 regular season.
The Cyclones did not have an assigned "Captain" during the 08 post season.
The Cyclones won the Kelly Cup Championship in 2008.
If the Cyclones won the Kelly Cup Championship in 2008, then they did so without having an assigned "Captain."
Therefore, there has been at least one hockey team to win a championship with out an assigned "Captain" but rather 3 "assistant Captains."

Don't believe me? Go look at the stat sheets from those seasons.


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Apocalypse Sticks
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  4:23:38 PM  Show Profile
Some decent play wedged between 'what am I watching?'

Every time Liambas drops the gloves, it feels like I'm watching a cartoon. His dance partner could just extend his arms while Liambas punches air.

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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  4:46:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Catch22

Lots of individual talent but no real "team" play going on. Missed passes, Dmen running into each other, lack of communication, etc.

I'm not a fan of a revolving door of AHL talent for exactly this reason.


If you're looking to watch a team that has the same players on the ice every night, there's men's league hockey in Evendale.

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Catch22
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Posted - 11/06/2011 :  5:25:27 PM  Show Profile
Same players every night isn't remotely an option in AA hockey.

Some form of continuity however is.

Talent does you NO good whatsoever if they don't have chemistry, don't have guidance, and don't play well together. Don't believe me? There are plenty of Rangers, Redskins and dream team olympic flops you can reference.

The championship teams here have all had influxes of AHL talent but have also had a strong core of ECHL contracted players. That works. 6 guys on ECHL contract and 12 guys through a constant rotating door is going to continue to give us what we saw last night... Some moments of great individual talent but also plenty of passes to nobody, guys running into each other, and defensemen watching someone skate right between them for a freebie.

As for the "C"... OK, you guys win on history. But the team I saw last night needs some leadership and I don't think a committee of As is the answer.

Yes, I grew up playing hockey... In Alabama.

Edited by - Catch22 on 11/06/2011 10:04:22 PM
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Reggie Dunlop
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  3:46:02 PM  Show Profile
Did anyone find Jenks' shootout attempt to appear unorthodox, to say the least? He went in with no speed or authority and tossed a weak shot into the pads. By going in so slowly, the goaltender had all kinds of time to square up and make adjustments. I don't know if it was an attempt at deception or what. Whatever it was, it didn't work and appeared pretty lax.
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bags
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Posted - 11/07/2011 :  7:01:18 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Reggie Dunlop

Did anyone find Jenks' shootout attempt to appear unorthodox, to say the least? He went in with no speed or authority and tossed a weak shot into the pads. By going in so slowly, the goaltender had all kinds of time to square up and make adjustments. I don't know if it was an attempt at deception or what. Whatever it was, it didn't work and appeared pretty lax.



Can't remember if that came before or after Tifu's shot. His shot he came
almost to a complete stop, faked two three times, then shot right through
the side of Plante. If his shot was after, he may have been trying the same
thing.
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Guido
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Posted - 11/08/2011 :  12:24:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Catch22


As for the "C"... OK, you guys win on history. But the team I saw last night needs some leadership and I don't think a committee of As is the answer.




There is a saying: "It is ALWAYS a question of leadership." Trouble is, there could be three A's because nobody has emerged as the clear leader among peers.

I do agree it is a problem, but the solution may not be so simple.

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dbc
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Posted - 11/08/2011 :  10:41:40 AM  Show Profile
Reggie--he was after Tifu but dont know what he was trying to do or copy. As much as I dislike Tifu, I thought his approach was very smart and different. A shootout is all about angles and getting someone to move first. The goalie will come out and try and set the angle and then move right or left with the shooter. Tifu came straight in and Plante came way out to meet him but rather than going left or right quickly, Tifu slowed down and just kept coming straight at him very very slowly. Plante backed up and backed up deep into the crease and by then he had lost any angle and Tifu just flipped it high to the open stick side. All four corners were open by then he was so deep in the crease. I had never seen that approach and I imagine if Plante had it to do again he would not back up but continue to be aggressive and perhaps try for a stick check. Jenks was slow but came in from the right wing allowing the goalie to get his angle and then shot while pretty far out before the goalie backed up or moved in any direction. Almost a routine shot and save from the bottom of the circle.
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Reggie Dunlop
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Posted - 11/08/2011 :  1:49:48 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dbc

Reggie--he was after Tifu but dont know what he was trying to do or copy. As much as I dislike Tifu, I thought his approach was very smart and different. A shootout is all about angles and getting someone to move first. The goalie will come out and try and set the angle and then move right or left with the shooter. Tifu came straight in and Plante came way out to meet him but rather than going left or right quickly, Tifu slowed down and just kept coming straight at him very very slowly. Plante backed up and backed up deep into the crease and by then he had lost any angle and Tifu just flipped it high to the open stick side. All four corners were open by then he was so deep in the crease. I had never seen that approach and I imagine if Plante had it to do again he would not back up but continue to be aggressive and perhaps try for a stick check. Jenks was slow but came in from the right wing allowing the goalie to get his angle and then shot while pretty far out before the goalie backed up or moved in any direction. Almost a routine shot and save from the bottom of the circle.



Right. I understand angles and movement. That's my point. Jenks made virtually no attempt to deke the goaltender or open up a shooting space. It looked like he was warming up the goaltender for the morning skate. A pretty odd and uninspired attempt when it's the "do or die" shot in a shootout.
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