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tjpavlik
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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 Posted - 03/02/2014 : 1:27:28 PM
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I noticed the ice seemed particularly bad for this game. Any thoughts as to why? Taylor Aronson had a spectacular spill after tripping on the Marathon Oil logo! It seemed as if the building was hotter than normal even before the crowd entered.
I noticed Guido coming out and taking the temperature of the ice in the second intermission and changing up the resurfacing pattern he follows. Could the pink color be to blame?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2014 : 1:50:33 PM
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I believe the warmth of the building is what impacted the ice. It was inordinately hot in there last night. I even noticed a spot that was still wet just below the blue line in front of the Cyclone bench halfway through the third period. It's the warmest I've ever felt an ice arena of any type.
Whatever it is, I hope they get it figured out before the NCAA Regional Tournament arrives at the end of March. It would be unfortunate to reprise the nightmare of the 1996 Frozen Four they hosted. |
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Guido
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 6:25:16 PM
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And here is your answer
http://cyclonesinsider.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-ice-follies-of-march-2-2014.html
As for the NCAA regionals, that will be a challenge, although we will not repeat 1996. the problem in 1996 was they used a drill to clear the hole for the net pegs. We use a bug sprayer with hot water and clear it with a turkey baster. So the odds of nicking a line are zero.
However, we will have to add mass to the ice, as described in the blog post. After the circus, new ice will go in with the Cyclones lines, logos, and sponsors. However the NCAA requires no logos or ads showing through and they do not have the trapezoid in the end zones. So, like the pink, we will have to paint the ice white on top of the Cyclones surface, then paint in new hockey lines and the NCAA logo, then add clear to that. Again this will add about 30% to the mass of the ice.
We will set the chiller to be cooler and keep the building temps lower to help deal with it. At least we won't be battling the warmer building.
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tjpavlik
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 03/04/2014 : 9:53:50 PM
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| Thanks for the expert explanation! A great read. |
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Guido
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2014 : 10:38:10 AM
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Originally posted by Guido
And here is your answer
http://cyclonesinsider.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-ice-follies-of-march-2-2014.html
As for the NCAA regionals, that will be a challenge, although we will not repeat 1996. the problem in 1996 was they used a drill to clear the hole for the net pegs. We use a bug sprayer with hot water and clear it with a turkey baster. So the odds of nicking a line are zero.
However, we will have to add mass to the ice, as described in the blog post. After the circus, new ice will go in with the Cyclones lines, logos, and sponsors. However the NCAA requires no logos or ads showing through and they do not have the trapezoid in the end zones. So, like the pink, we will have to paint the ice white on top of the Cyclones surface, then paint in new hockey lines and the NCAA logo, then add clear to that. Again this will add about 30% to the mass of the ice.
We will set the chiller to be cooler and keep the building temps lower to help deal with it. At least we won't be battling the warmer building.
Very interesting, Guido. Thank you for such a thorough explanation. I find the science of ice management and building transformation fascinating. Keep up the good work! |
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elvis77
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 03/05/2014 : 1:04:35 PM
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| I recall from past posts about how you get the ice pink, how the thickness affects the ice, and how the building temp does the same. What I found most interesting is WHY the building was so hot. On a typical late winter early spring day I walk into the building and think geeze it's a little warm in here, the ice is going to be terrible. Then I look up and see tarps removed from the upper bowl, and read a tweet from Brunker on the huge crowd that's expected and think, damn the ice is going to be down right sh*tty. On March first I walked in and thought holy balls in hell it's hot in here, is there any ice even left to play on. You did a hell of a job keeping it playable Guido. |
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Guido
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 03/05/2014 : 2:13:39 PM
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As I said in the blog, "contractual obligations for the Eagles concert"
They have specific temperature requirements, outside temps were dropping, and they had to load in more than a dozen truckloads of gear. So, we had to start warming the building early. Just part of doing business as a multi-use building. |
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Billy Mays
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 03/20/2014 : 10:20:51 PM
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| Thanks Guido for the in's & out's of ice making and ice maintenance, it is very interesting. Keep up the good work |
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