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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)

98 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2015 :  12:38:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by elvis77

They tried a Sunday game last year, it drew a little over 1600. Granted it was in November but the Bungles were on a bye week. I'm just not sure if making it late in the year would make a difference. From what I can recall, Sunday games just don't seem to draw here in Cincy. Discounting the tickets could help but rather than doing that I'd suggest the same thing someone else said, have 2 or 3 "Throwback" nights. They don't have to call them all Throwback night, to mix it up, do one in say Novemember/early December can call it Throwback Night, then do a 2nd in late January/February can call it Economic Relief night. Finally, have one late in the season, say April, and call it Tax Refund night or something.



The more "throwback" nights they have, the more they'll all suffer. One per year, MAYBE two at the most would be my vote. Bottom line, people in this city are cheap.
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)

98 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2015 :  12:41:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bags

Another big crowd and this time it was at full price. Except for a
promotion for the first 2,000, this crowd was paying full price to
see a hockey game. I was wondering how crowds would be in late January
through April with late Sunday afternoon games ? With football done and
baseball not started, this could be a chance for maybe some "Family Days"
where families are the target of promotions. I understand the reluctance
to $10 everyday tickets, but Sundays could be a great day to offer them.
Weekday nights can be hard getting the family to a game with school and
work and Saturday is a big entertainment night, so full price can still be
achieved, but Sunday is a different story. A 5PM game would mean people
could be home early that night while having the morning and early afternoon
for something else.
It was great seeing the big crowd down there. Too bad the Cyclones have a history
of playing better before small crowds ! Goalie Brittain just didn't seem to be in
synch with the defense. Oh the dreaded first minute of periods one and three.



Right on about the playing bad in front of large crowds. That is so frustrating! But to suggest that discounted tickets would increase attendance on a regular basis is silly. Make em $10 tickets this year and people like you will complain next year that they should be $9. Makes absolutely zero sense.
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Hakeedude
(Been Here Awhile)

524 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2015 :  09:22:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Hakeedude's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

But to suggest that discounted tickets would increase attendance on a regular basis is silly. Make em $10 tickets this year and people like you will complain next year that they should be $9. Makes absolutely zero sense.


Do you not remember the sizeable and lasting attendance increase when they permanently reduced ticket prices to $10 after they reactivated several years ago? Probably saved the franchise.
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2015 :  12:04:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hakeedude

Do you not remember the sizeable and lasting attendance increase when they permanently reduced ticket prices to $10 after they reactivated several years ago? Probably saved the franchise.


Agree 100% with you. In a sneaky way, they've raised the price
to $15 on walkup purchase. Yes I know you can get around it with
advance buy or package combos, but the average walkup fan decides
to go that day.
For my biggest fan, I never once mentioned any price lower than $10.
I understand they have costs and $10 is my desired lowest price. At
$15, I make less games the same I see less movies for $9 at the first
run theaters .
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)

98 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2015 :  1:07:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hakeedude

quote:

But to suggest that discounted tickets would increase attendance on a regular basis is silly. Make em $10 tickets this year and people like you will complain next year that they should be $9. Makes absolutely zero sense.


Do you not remember the sizeable and lasting attendance increase when they permanently reduced ticket prices to $10 after they reactivated several years ago? Probably saved the franchise.



This could be the dumbest reply I've seen yet. You are comparing the franchise now to when it was having trouble drawing 500 people per game? Really? Come back when you have a better argument.
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)

98 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2015 :  1:11:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bags

quote:
Originally posted by Hakeedude

Do you not remember the sizeable and lasting attendance increase when they permanently reduced ticket prices to $10 after they reactivated several years ago? Probably saved the franchise.


Agree 100% with you. In a sneaky way, they've raised the price
to $15 on walkup purchase. Yes I know you can get around it with
advance buy or package combos, but the average walkup fan decides
to go that day.
For my biggest fan, I never once mentioned any price lower than $10.
I understand they have costs and $10 is my desired lowest price. At
$15, I make less games the same I see less movies for $9 at the first
run theaters .



You've missed my point. Surprise face! What I'm saying is that once you lower prices to $10 per ticket there will be fans like you who will eventually complain that prices are too high. SMH.
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
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Posted - 01/28/2015 :  07:59:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your missing a huge point. Tickets are not paying the bills-ads are.
If the team is averaging 3000 fans, ads won't bring top dollar like
an average of 4500. Bump this up to 6,000 and the cost of ads can be
doubled because a business feels the message will be reached by more
people. If you also notice, local news shows up for big attendance
nights which I'm sure Cyclones management tips them off ( smart move
on their part) ! By the way, have you ever skipped an empty diner to
go to one with people inside ? Bigger crowds make you feel better
about going to the game no matter what it costs.
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)

98 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2015 :  11:27:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bags

Your missing a huge point. Tickets are not paying the bills-ads are.
If the team is averaging 3000 fans, ads won't bring top dollar like
an average of 4500. Bump this up to 6,000 and the cost of ads can be
doubled because a business feels the message will be reached by more
people. If you also notice, local news shows up for big attendance
nights which I'm sure Cyclones management tips them off ( smart move
on their part) ! By the way, have you ever skipped an empty diner to
go to one with people inside ? Bigger crowds make you feel better
about going to the game no matter what it costs.




Wrong again (shocker). I've seen local news at most games this season and typically see highlights at least on the tv station I watch nearly every night. But don't let facts get in the way of your ignorance. Bags, do yourself a favor and do some research before you come back on here to argue your points. You're embarrassing yourself.
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2015 :  12:08:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry to all the Section 60 fans for this nonsense !
I have two question to ask and I'm actually hoping
for an answer from "Donny Hockey" ! DH, does the team generate
more money from ads or attendance ? Also, will the value of ads
go up as the average attendance goes up ? With your background
I will believe your answer.
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
1514 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2015 :  8:54:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bags

Sorry to all the Section 60 fans for this nonsense !
I have two question to ask and I'm actually hoping
for an answer from "Donny Hockey" ! DH, does the team generate
more money from ads or attendance ? Also, will the value of ads
go up as the average attendance goes up ? With your background
I will believe your answer.



Because the arena owns the team, I would need to know how the revenue from sponsorship deals is broken down to answer your question. What I can tell you is at the minor pro level, ticket sales is usually where the higher percentage of the revenue comes from. Without every home game being on TV, it limits the value the signage around the boards and on the ice have for the sponsor. But when the arena owns the team, it may not be as reliant on ticket sales.


www.twitter.com/donhelbig

Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 01/29/2015 8:56:54 PM
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)

USA
2224 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2015 :  10:30:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Donnie for your info. Maybe the ads aren't paying the bills alone
but without them, I'm sure no one is making any money. The team is doing
good this year on attendance, but I still wonder if Cincinnati will keep
coming at $15 ?
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Donnie Hockey
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USA
1514 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2015 :  7:00:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bags

Thanks Donnie for your info. Maybe the ads aren't paying the bills alone
but without them, I'm sure no one is making any money. The team is doing
good this year on attendance, but I still wonder if Cincinnati will keep
coming at $15 ?



I think $15 is the right price for the market and caliber of play the ECHL offers. If Cincinnati won't come at that price then Cincinnati doesn't deserve to have a team in the ECHL.

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