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Clones
(Rookie)
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 Posted - 04/10/2011 : 11:24:23 AM
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I am so sad the the Cylones season has ended! I was really hoping we could put Reading out. With that being said ..... I feel that the coaching staff this season was not the standard we Cyclones fans were used to. I started hearing other fans at games complaining about the coaching and then I saw a facebook post from a player referencing the awful coach.
So, I ask does anyone know the details of Skalde's contract? I would love to know that we will be seeing coaching changes this summer. How likely do you think that is? |
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Randy
(The Next Level!)
USA
432 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 11:39:00 AM
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| You can't blame them for the entire season's performance. Come on. |
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Apocalypse Sticks
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/10/2011 : 11:43:37 AM
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I would hope that with Skalde's late signing, the contract would only be good for one year.
I fully support hiring a new coaching staff. |
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
597 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 1:27:38 PM
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He certainly is not to be blamed for the entire season, but ultimately the buck stops with him. Everyone knows ownership will give whatever it takes to put a winner out there. I personally have seen very little from him that impressed me, it anything at all.
I was under the impression he signed a two year contract when he was brought on board, but I am sure there are others who are more up to speed on that than me. |
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cycfan
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/10/2011 : 2:58:59 PM
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| I still think unless there is another coach out there, that ownership feels is the second coming of Scotty Bowman, that Skalde should get one more year. Let's see what he can do, with an entire summer to recruit and build the team that he wants. If after that process, he still disappoints, then it's time to go. |
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/10/2011 : 4:58:24 PM
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| He did absolutely nothing with Bloomington, in fact, they are a much, much better team without him. The Bloomington Coach was the CHL Coach of the year this year and the Cyclones laid and egg. If he stays, and I beleive he will, it is my opinion, based on his history, that the Clones will repeat this years performance. I dont buy the theory that "his" team will be better. He will only get a few players that will be "his" picks. Just my opinion. |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 5:12:40 PM
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Allow me to analyze a line from Glengarry Glen Ross to better sum up what I feel about one Jarrod Skalde...
"You got leads. Mitch and Murray paid good money, get their names to sell them. you can't close the leads youre given you can't close s***. You ARE s***. Hit the bricks pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT."
Jarrod, Kristin Ropp and Ray Harris spent big time convincing Chuck to stick inside the organization to give you the players you needed to win games... you couldn't win... you ARE CRAP and YOU ARE GOING!!! |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2011 : 8:24:28 PM
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I tried hard to find something positive. I failed.
I think Skalde will be back for one more and I think LUCKING into Brian Foster is the only reason for that.
After watching this team play their asses off the last two nights but continue to try to play a style that doesn't match their skills I really wish we'd waited to buy our tickets for next year. It's just frustrating to watch. It's like watching someone with no fingers trying to tie their shoes.
They play with that effort but with some offensive adjustments and they win both of those games and we're still alive.
The style of play attempted all season probably WORKS with Sproat, Pierce, Conacher, CPZ, and JC Sawyer on the bench, but guess what... It doesn't work that way (obviously).
It's on the coach.
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
597 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 9:01:29 PM
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Yes Catch-er...I hear ya. I couldn't agree more that Foster was the Novocain in a Root Canal of a season, and probably gave Skalde another year. It is also why I did decide to hold off getting tickets for next season, although I will probably go with a twelve game pack instead of my usual 24.
I'm not in any hurry. I will just sit back and watch what the off season brings. The Cyclones do have a very good ownership group, so I guess we can always hope... |
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Sinbinman
(Rookie)
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Posted - 04/11/2011 : 09:59:49 AM
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| I agree with Catch22, Foster will likely be the reason Skalde gets another year. I said in an earlier post that Skalde should give Foster a bonus for saving his job. I guess my question would be is who would we get for a coach? Not trying to sound stupid but between my son playing hockey and following the Cyclones I don't keep up with other leagues or people who would be potential coaches. Of course Dean would have been the best answer. |
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fangers
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2011 : 10:29:32 AM
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When I voiced my opposition to his hiring at the time I was pretty well blasted for it. Despite what some felt at the time, I did not simply base my opinion on what a couple posters on another forum said, rather on the opinion of several folks I've gotten to know that really know the junior and minor pro hockey world.
And what you saw from this team this season is what has been seen from previous skalde coached teams - inconsistent performance, especially on the part of the more veteran players and a general sense that his teams underachieved.
I'm not sure comparing what the next Bloomington coach did is fair tho, because they did step up to a higher league which in turn would have brought in higher quality players. I'd stick to comparing it against his coaching track record.
The disparity between their home and road play is baffling tho, not sure how much of that is on the coaching staff, but I guess game day prep was different enough to cause the problem? |
Edited by - fangers on 04/11/2011 10:31:30 AM |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
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676 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2011 : 11:45:02 AM
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It doesn't really matter. A big part of a coaches job is to correct problems, and the tendency to not be able to win at home was obviously a big problem he didn't correct.
Or maybe he caused it?
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2011 : 11:57:11 AM
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The question of who to replace Coach Skalde if they choose to. I
mentioned Malcolm Cameron earlier but here's another idea - Ian
Herbers currently the assistant coach with Milwaukee. He spent two
years coaching Johnstown so he knows the ECHL East style of play. The
fact he is a current Nashville man should help in their eyes.
http://www.milwaukeeadmirals.com/home/team/coach/Ian-Herbers.html |
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Susan
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2011 : 12:01:03 PM
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I remember when Cameron was here as head coach. It was not a good situation & I personally don't think the organization would want to re-hire him.
I may be blasted for this but maybe the organization should give Skalde & Fankhouser a full summer to recruit with the knowledge to both of them that if this team doesn't go farther next year then they will be moved out.
All I know is that something has to change or I feel there will be a big drop in attendance.
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2011 : 12:28:19 PM
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Susan, I remember the days with Malcolm Cameron.... sure, he put us within one game of the Kelly Cup Finals, but our organization was a train wreck at the time... yeah, he is a proven good coach, but it would not be in our best interest to hire him back.
If Skalde deserves a second year with this team it will only be because we didn't give him a full chance to recruit and mold his own roster... Chuck did alot of the recruiting when he was still here, and was pulled to Rochester in late July... Chuck even told me at the farewell party at Boomerang's that it was going to be a bumpy season because Jarrod didn't have a full summer... But Jarrod was Chuck's hand picked suggestion, and with that comes a giant responsibility to continue the great work, which was not apparent this year.
So the only basis I see for giving Skalde another year is the fact that he now has six months, not 1 1/2, to produce a team for next year... and ill give him that chance... if we tank like we did this year, expect him out |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
Boards + visitors = broken bones! |
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bhf303
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 04/11/2011 : 1:49:18 PM
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Originally posted by fangers
When I voiced my opposition to his hiring at the time I was pretty well blasted for it. Despite what some felt at the time, I did not simply base my opinion on what a couple posters on another forum said, rather on the opinion of several folks I've gotten to know that really know the junior and minor pro hockey world.
And what you saw from this team this season is what has been seen from previous skalde coached teams - inconsistent performance, especially on the part of the more veteran players and a general sense that his teams underachieved.
I'm not sure comparing what the next Bloomington coach did is fair tho, because they did step up to a higher league which in turn would have brought in higher quality players. I'd stick to comparing it against his coaching track record.
The disparity between their home and road play is baffling tho, not sure how much of that is on the coaching staff, but I guess game day prep was different enough to cause the problem?
I'll give you credit that it may not be completely fair to compare Skalde to Blommingtons current Coach, but my comparison was more central to how they were as comapred to how they are now and that I believe that a better Coach can be found. The Clones went in the opposite direction and I think that trend will continue. I think this topic is all for not however, as I believe Skalde will be here again next year. With that said, the proof will be in the pudding, as there will be no more excuses as to why he fails, if in fact he does (I hope he doesnt.) He will get to recruit a couple of his own players, which history says will be goon type players. |
Somersaults, thats how I roll! |
Edited by - bhf303 on 04/11/2011 1:55:50 PM |
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