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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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 Posted - 11/16/2012 : 11:37:07 AM
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Showed lots of weaknesses last night that remind me of our friend Kyle G. He stays too deep in the net, doesn't play his angles well, has a poor glove hand and thus gives up too many rebounds off his pads and chest, and most of all he drops to his knees on every shot as the shot is being taken and becomes small in the net. Three of the goals last night were bad goals. Lets hope Brian is back tonight or soon and we find someone else when the lock out ends and Brian is probably called up.
It has been a long time since I have seen one team dominate puck control as much as the Cyclones did last night. At many points in the game it looked like a game of keep away but everything was on the perimeter. One thing that bothers me offensively through these first 12 games is our PP which is third from the bottom of the league at 10% after finishing last year third from the bottom as well. The first line of Aubin, Eves, and Pelech has also disappeared. |
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
399 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2012 : 4:17:31 PM
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| He didn't have a stellar night, but he made some nice saves. Tuesday, too. His glove hand was outstanding last night when he robbed the shooter of a point blank shot. With this being his first year playing North American hockey, he has work to do, but also can grow into his potential. He bailed out the Cyclones a few times on Tuesday. Give him a chance. |
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elvis77
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 11/16/2012 : 4:47:49 PM
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No one ever seems to remember how shaky Ceddy, Jeremy Smith and Robert Mayer were to start their careers. Sure they went on to win MVPs but their play wasn't always to that standard, they grew with time.
Zoltan has played 3 regular season games, THREE! Give him a chance. Are there things he needs to work on? Sure, and that's why he's here. |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
865 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2012 : 10:58:40 AM
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| sorry--just don't think he is fundamentally sound. Tried to catch the first goal with his glove up rather than down and on the third goal he made the same mistake he made the night before on the game winner-he dropped on a bad angle and left a foot open on the short side. These have nothing to do with the size of the rink. |
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Catch22
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
676 Posts |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 6:59:10 PM
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I agree that he can be shakey at times and the team doesn't look to be playing as confidently in front of him as they do with Brian.
But give the guy a chance. He flashes some clear skill sometimes, and as noted about a million times on this forum... The reason your ticket is $13 instead of $113 is that you are watching development league hockey. He's here to see if he can develop into an AHL or NHL player. If he can't, he won't be around long.
Know where Chet Pickard is right now? Yeah, neither do I.
It's a crap shoot for us. Either the guy turns out to be a keeper or he doesn't. Heck, remember that Brian came from the Shreveport Mudbugs and we were afraid that we were screwed. Dude saved the season.
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fangers
(The Next Level!)
USA
262 Posts |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 10:30:28 PM
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| The bigger ice isn't the only thing different in NA hockey. Players are generally bigger and there's much more traffic around/in front of the net, which puts even more emphasis on controlling rebounds and following the puck thru traffic - both issues I've seen with him so far. |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
865 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2012 : 10:19:21 PM
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and it continues--now based on six games. After tonight he has a GAA of 3.58 and the 2nd worst save percent in the league at .848. Every game he has been in has had save percent below a .9 even the one game he won when he allowed 2 goals on only 18 shots. This isn't a case of letting the talent develop. His skill set is well below what you would expect for a 24 year old. Very poor basics.
I don't blame him and I don't blame the coaches. Skalde must be pulling out his hair as he has no choice but to play him if Brian isn't ready. Someone in the Nashville organization has made two big mistakes with Zoltan and Chet and it is getting depressing again seeing he is going to play and knowing I am going to see 1-2 bad goals a game. As to where Chet is, yes he is gone but he was here for TWO years before they dumped him--not six games but two years. Lets hope Brian is back SOON and remains in the lineup |
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Donnie Hockey
(Loves To Post!)
USA
1514 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2012 : 11:11:06 PM
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The ECHL is a developmental league and Jarrod Skalde has to give him a chance to play. There are a lot of forwards and defensemen on the team that make a series of mistakes every game, but unless it's a turnover the fans don't pick up on that like they do with a goalie when they let in soft goals or don't control rebounds and handle the puck well.
NHL organizations aren't going to give up on a young player in their first or second year of pro hockey, especially goalies. When players are signed to entry level contracts, they're given three years to develop. Fans have to understand the ups and downs is part of being part of a developmental league, which the ECHL has evolved into.
One thing you are seeing more of in recent years is NHL teams drafting guys and then a couple years later when they've completed their junior or college careers not offering them a contract unless they really think the kid has a shot to play in the NHL, no matter what round they were drafted in. Before, teams felt obligated to sign all of their draft picks. |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
584 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2012 : 11:21:14 PM
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| Man I hate dropping three in a row. |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
865 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2012 : 11:35:06 PM
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| I certainly understand the development nature of the ECHL but Zoltan has yet to show that he has the basic skills that can be developed. If he were 18-20 I could better understand this but he is 24. My problem is not with him or with Skalde but with Nashville for sending us Chet for two years followed by Zoltan. I would love it if he turned it around but six games and not one good one. I cant see him stealing a game for us by making 37 saves and giving up one or two goals. Its not soft goals that bother me as much as goals caused by bad positioning or technique. |
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wheres dale degray
(Finally Got A Star!)
75 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2012 : 09:28:58 AM
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| I agree with everyone else that Zoltan is obviously not plyaing well. However, the offense certainly isn't helping anything right now. The first period was full of good scoring chances last night and all we had to show for it was 1 goal. The power play is flat out awful. I haven't looked at other teams stats but we have to be worst or close to it in the league on PP %. It's hard to win when you can't put the puck in the net. |
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cloneinator
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
597 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2012 : 5:27:07 PM
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Originally posted by wheres dale degray
I agree with everyone else that Zoltan is obviously not plyaing well. However, the offense certainly isn't helping anything right now. The first period was full of good scoring chances last night and all we had to show for it was 1 goal. The power play is flat out awful. I haven't looked at other teams stats but we have to be worst or close to it in the league on PP %. It's hard to win when you can't put the puck in the net.
Based on the Skalde teams of the last two years, I would say there is a word for that... Deja Vu |
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MadameC
(Rookie)
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Posted - 11/23/2012 : 1:37:16 PM
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| I am just throwing in my $0.02 here. I have noticed several times in the last few games that Zoltan seems to "lose the puck". It's like he has a hard time following it when it gets busy near the net. And his back and forth seems somewhat lethargic in comparison to other goaltenders. Maybe part of his problem is stamina - who knows. I just know that I'll be happy to see good ol' #35 between the pipes again. |
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