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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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 Posted - 11/16/2013 : 5:23:44 PM
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I must have missed the announcement from the ECHL. Can someone link me to the press release announcing the league had become a non check league?
The lack of physical--not dirty but good tough physical play--has been been entirely absent during the three game home stand. Anyone else notice? |
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 11/16/2013 : 5:36:51 PM
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| Yes, it's very passive play. I commented last night that players are deliberately passing up ideal checking opportunities. |
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danc
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 11/17/2013 : 04:00:34 AM
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I didn't attend Friday's game, but I have been underwhelmed by the Cyclones physical play all season.
Other than McDonald, there doesn't seem to be any physical presence on this roster. McDonald has a ton of heart, but he's no heavy wieght.
Embach would throw his (limited) weight around. Pelech could be downright mean when the situation called for it. Aubin was hated throughout the league as an agitator and occasional cheap shot artist.
Now we have a roster which could audition for Holiday on Ice. I suppose Turgeon (if he's still here) would be an exception to this along with the new Captain.
4 goals by forwards in the last 4 games. I guess our "stifling defense" isn't generating too many scoring opportunities. LOL
The Cyclones record will soon mirror their abilities. This is not an 8-3 team. Not even close.
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BP2011
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
531 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2013 : 10:30:31 AM
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| Turgeon was placed on 21 day IR a couple days ago. But agree there is no Jimmy Bonneau/Justin Johnson/EVEN a Mike Liambas/or Andrew Conboy on this team this year. |
08, 10 Kelly Cup Champions
08, 10, 14 American Conference Champions
08, 09, 13 North Division Champions
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 11/17/2013 : 5:10:35 PM
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Originally posted by danc
I didn't attend Friday's game, but I have been underwhelmed by the Cyclones physical play all season.
Other than McDonald, there doesn't seem to be any physical presence on this roster. McDonald has a ton of heart, but he's no heavy wieght.
Embach would throw his (limited) weight around. Pelech could be downright mean when the situation called for it. Aubin was hated throughout the league as an agitator and occasional cheap shot artist.
Now we have a roster which could audition for Holiday on Ice. I suppose Turgeon (if he's still here) would be an exception to this along with the new Captain.
4 goals by forwards in the last 4 games. I guess our "stifling defense" isn't generating too many scoring opportunities. LOL
The Cyclones record will soon mirror their abilities. This is not an 8-3 team. Not even close.
You sure do complain a lot. Last I checked, 8-3 is still 8-3. You must be a joy to hang out with. Uggg. LOL. Again, just go back to your hole |
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 11/17/2013 : 5:51:13 PM
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| I am not talking about having a goon or two and fighters, but rather players who will at least finish their check. We are losing the wall game at both ends of the ice and part5 of this is due to the fact no one finishes the checks and the opposition doesn't have to have one eye out for someone. When you know you are not going to be hit, you can put 100% of your attention on keeping or getting the puck. |
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danc
(The Next Level!)
114 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2013 : 9:39:00 PM
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Originally posted by PsychFan
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Originally posted by danc
I didn't attend Friday's game, but I have been underwhelmed by the Cyclones physical play all season.
Other than McDonald, there doesn't seem to be any physical presence on this roster. McDonald has a ton of heart, but he's no heavy wieght.
Embach would throw his (limited) weight around. Pelech could be downright mean when the situation called for it. Aubin was hated throughout the league as an agitator and occasional cheap shot artist.
Now we have a roster which could audition for Holiday on Ice. I suppose Turgeon (if he's still here) would be an exception to this along with the new Captain.
4 goals by forwards in the last 4 games. I guess our "stifling defense" isn't generating too many scoring opportunities. LOL
The Cyclones record will soon mirror their abilities. This is not an 8-3 team. Not even close.
You sure do complain a lot. Last I checked, 8-3 is still 8-3. You must be a joy to hang out with. Uggg. LOL. Again, just go back to your hole
Can't counter with anything even remotely on topic.
Since I brought up my disgust with the Aubin/Pelech/Embach releases (that's what they were), the offense has done very little. That was my fear. I was called a know nothing for suggesting that these 3 players were valuable assets.
I guess trolls are welcome here. So it seems.
Having a forward corps that is very soft and not very productive is not a recipe for success. Throw out Megan and MacFarland and forward produtivity is very poor.
The Cyclones won their first first home game in regulation. Since then, their two home wins have been in SO and OT. They gave up 37 shots in the first two periods last night in kalamazoo.
8-3 is a mirage. At least for us who can look a little deeper than the box scores.
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danc
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 11/17/2013 : 9:59:05 PM
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Originally posted by dbc
I am not talking about having a goon or two and fighters, but rather players who will at least finish their check. We are losing the wall game at both ends of the ice and part5 of this is due to the fact no one finishes the checks and the opposition doesn't have to have one eye out for someone. When you know you are not going to be hit, you can put 100% of your attention on keeping or getting the puck.
Embach, Pelech and Aubin were all decent in keeping the opponents honest by playing somewhat physical games. Little Luciani doesn't shy away from contact, but I haven't seen any other forward still on the roster who physically engage the opponent regularly.
Hazen, MacFarland, Megan, Eves, Almeida, Lewis and Crowder aren't at all physical. Birkholz can be, but doesn't engage very often. Don't know about Cornet or Lowe, but their prior stats don't suggest physical play.
On defense, Wysopal, Reed, Daniels and Aronson aren't very physical. Neither Corbin nor Ruth appear to be bruisers, but I haven't seen them enough to form a strong opinion on them. McFadden will engage at times and MacDonald is a physical presence, but he's not very big.
We're looking at a very soft team at this point from what I can see. Given the disposition of the players on the roster and, evidently, the philosophy of the new coach, the Cyclones aren't going to be finishing too many checks this season. They'll do their checking at the bank.
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 11/18/2013 : 10:18:48 AM
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Originally posted by danc
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Originally posted by dbc
I am not talking about having a goon or two and fighters, but rather players who will at least finish their check. We are losing the wall game at both ends of the ice and part5 of this is due to the fact no one finishes the checks and the opposition doesn't have to have one eye out for someone. When you know you are not going to be hit, you can put 100% of your attention on keeping or getting the puck.
Embach, Pelech and Aubin were all decent in keeping the opponents honest by playing somewhat physical games. Little Luciani doesn't shy away from contact, but I haven't seen any other forward still on the roster who physically engage the opponent regularly.
Hazen, MacFarland, Megan, Eves, Almeida, Lewis and Crowder aren't at all physical. Birkholz can be, but doesn't engage very often. Don't know about Cornet or Lowe, but their prior stats don't suggest physical play.
On defense, Wysopal, Reed, Daniels and Aronson aren't very physical. Neither Corbin nor Ruth appear to be bruisers, but I haven't seen them enough to form a strong opinion on them. McFadden will engage at times and MacDonald is a physical presence, but he's not very big.
We're looking at a very soft team at this point from what I can see. Given the disposition of the players on the roster and, evidently, the philosophy of the new coach, the Cyclones aren't going to be finishing too many checks this season. They'll do their checking at the bank.
Haha oh I get it! Checking - like money, right? Damn, you're clever. Stick to trolling - not to jokes. You're obviously way better at trolling. Leave. |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 11/18/2013 : 12:12:54 PM
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Originally posted by danc
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Originally posted by PsychFan
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Originally posted by danc
I didn't attend Friday's game, but I have been underwhelmed by the Cyclones physical play all season.
Other than McDonald, there doesn't seem to be any physical presence on this roster. McDonald has a ton of heart, but he's no heavy wieght.
Embach would throw his (limited) weight around. Pelech could be downright mean when the situation called for it. Aubin was hated throughout the league as an agitator and occasional cheap shot artist.
Now we have a roster which could audition for Holiday on Ice. I suppose Turgeon (if he's still here) would be an exception to this along with the new Captain.
4 goals by forwards in the last 4 games. I guess our "stifling defense" isn't generating too many scoring opportunities. LOL
The Cyclones record will soon mirror their abilities. This is not an 8-3 team. Not even close.
You sure do complain a lot. Last I checked, 8-3 is still 8-3. You must be a joy to hang out with. Uggg. LOL. Again, just go back to your hole
Can't counter with anything even remotely on topic.
Since I brought up my disgust with the Aubin/Pelech/Embach releases (that's what they were), the offense has done very little. That was my fear. I was called a know nothing for suggesting that these 3 players were valuable assets.
I guess trolls are welcome here. So it seems.
Having a forward corps that is very soft and not very productive is not a recipe for success. Throw out Megan and MacFarland and forward produtivity is very poor.
The Cyclones won their first first home game in regulation. Since then, their two home wins have been in SO and OT. They gave up 37 shots in the first two periods last night in kalamazoo.
8-3 is a mirage. At least for us who can look a little deeper than the box scores.
I certainly wasn't calling you a know nothing.....simply a "You cannot to NOTHING about it person". You are spending way too much time on the subject but I admire your passion. They are gone, there isn't anything left to do. I'm sorry. |
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King Of The Monkeys
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 11/18/2013 : 4:04:36 PM
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Nothing new to post here - just saying that I agree with most everything in this post. Friday night's game showed a very soft team that is going to get spanked a lot if this keeps up. However, I am not giving up on Ben Simon yet and assuming that he is also aware of this deficiency and is going to address it in some way. Perhaps he is currently at the mercy of the team that he has been given and doesn't have any options. If the affiliates have given him a 'soft' team, what else can he do? That does bring up a question though. You are all saying that the trades we have made for 'future considerations' are really just player releases. Isn't there a chance that as call-ups and injuries occur, we can call in those trades and acquire players that could improve the team's physicality?
Also, in keeping up with my support of Ben Simon this early in the season, don't forget that the team IS 8-3 and scoring way more goals than it is giving up.
Finally, the troll in this blog is really annoying. How are the rest of you going to handle it? Are you going to just ignore this douchebag or continue to challenge him? My thought is that there is no point in trying to reason with him - he is not smart enough to reason with. I really tried last year to get him to understand that he would be valued if he would state his thoughts about hockey and leave the trash talking at the curb, but it obviously didn't take and I don't think any of you are going to have any better luck. Just keep in mind that when he makes statements as though he is speaking not only for himself but for other people, that DOES NOT INCLUDE ME. |
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 11/19/2013 : 12:27:22 AM
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| I'm confused, this person is accusing this person and this person is accusing that person of being the TROLL....in this thread I see mostly sub 100 post rookies. I'm not really certain who's the troll. |
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