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Cyclonesdiehard
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SCUBA
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 Posted - 12/06/2013 : 7:27:53 PM
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| Ironic that maybe the ICEMEN are having trouble get into town because of wintery icy weather.......kinda humorous |
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dbc
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 7:32:03 PM
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| I called this afternoon around 2 and was told Evansville was in town this morning and therefore the game was on. Sort of a late call to cancel it as I saw it about 7 on the web page. Might be that the city has put parking bans in effect and declared snow emergency where you are only suppose to drive if necessary etc and they were asked/forced to cancel. Another possibility is they were concerned about employees or customers getting hurt in an accident trying to get there or get home. Feel sorry for all the dogs who I am sure were excited about the promo!!!!. Anyone else notice the dogs are better behaved on their nite than the kids are during the morning game???? |
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ClonesFanNKY
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 10:13:38 PM
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From what I heard Evensville got stuck down on I71 in Louisville
I also seen on Facebook that an Icemen fan said the icemen players
Where sending tweets from the bus saying things like "stuck in snow traffic"
And "looks like we are heading back home, no game tonight" so I don't think
They was even in town! But Idk?!! |
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ClonesFanNKY
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Posted - 12/06/2013 : 10:15:03 PM
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From what I heard Evensville got stuck down on I71 in Louisville
I also seen on Facebook that an Icemen fan said the icemen players
Where sending tweets from the bus saying things like "stuck in snow traffic"
And "looks like we are heading back home, no game tonight" so I don't think
They was even in town! But Idk?!! |
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danc
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 03:16:59 AM
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Cyclones management dropped the ball on this.
They obviously didn't monitor Evansville's progess (or lack thereof) in getting to Cincinnati despite the inclement weather. If they had, it would have been clear by 5pm that Evansville wasn't going to get to USBA on time and, at the very least, a severely delayed start should have been announced.
The good news is that hardly anyone was at USBA so the inconvenience factor was negligible. I doubt the game-had it been played- would have had many more than 500 people there. It was a nice touch to have the players play a 4 on 4 scrimmage starring both coaches and Ben Simon's daughter. It was fun. Matt McD and Simon appeared to be having a blast playing. Reliving the glory days!! LOL
Still, this is the second time since the team has been back from suspension that the ball was dropped regarding timely cancellation of a game. In year 2 or 3 back from suspension, Wheeling's bus broke down and the game wasn't cancelled until the scheduled starting time despite the fact that Wheeling hadn't even made it to Columbus and had no replacement bus at the time of the cancellation.
The organization, and perhaps the league, should develop a better protocol regarding travel delays/cancellations.
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Cyclonesdiehard
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 09:43:39 AM
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| It appears more likely Evansville dropped the ball. They played a game Thursday night at home, and instead of leaving after the game, and finding a hotel in Cincinnati they waited until Friday to head this way. Should the Cyclones been more upfront with the whereabouts of the Icemen yes, but I believe the Icemen should of known the storm's severity, and made plans accordingly. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 10:49:49 AM
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I agree with Cyclonesdiehard. I'm sure the Cyclones were keeping track of Evansville's progress; Brunker replied to one of my tweets stating that around 3 pm the Icemen were in/near Lousiville, but they could have updated the fans a bit better. It was the Icemen who dropped the ball. It appears they kept their normal travel schedule rather than leaving after the previous nights game, or very early in the morning.
The Cyclones left very early this morning to get to Wheeling for tonights game rather than the usual morning skate then leave right after lunch routine. Perhaps the Icemen could take some notes. |
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danc
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 2:01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Cyclonesdiehard
It appears more likely Evansville dropped the ball. They played a game Thursday night at home, and instead of leaving after the game, and finding a hotel in Cincinnati they waited until Friday to head this way. Should the Cyclones been more upfront with the whereabouts of the Icemen yes, but I believe the Icemen should of known the storm's severity, and made plans accordingly.
Evansville may have been negligent in leaving too late-although I have heard that they caught freezing rain and had been on the bus for 6 hours and not even to Louisville, Ky. Sounds like bad luck on their part.
Where the Cyclones management failed was after the Icemen didn't show by 5 or so-whenenver the standard arrival time is. At that point, communication with the Icemen bus was in order. It sounds like it would have been a pretty easy decision to make by 5 pm. The Cyclones hold the responsibility to their fanbase. They were the ones hosting the event. Would have been an easy call.
Only valid excuse would be if cell communication would have been out for an extended time. Simon and Pyle have each's cell phone numbers, one would think.
The sun still rises in the morning and there were very few severely put out by the Cyclones managmements errors. No big deal really, but it shouldn't be repeated. Snow and ice happen, so does delayed travel. This storm was well expected. A few phone calls and a little common sense and the situation could have been handled much better.
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PsychFan
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 2:13:22 PM
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Originally posted by danc
Cyclones management dropped the ball on this.
They obviously didn't monitor Evansville's progess (or lack thereof) in getting to Cincinnati despite the inclement weather. If they had, it would have been clear by 5pm that Evansville wasn't going to get to USBA on time and, at the very least, a severely delayed start should have been announced.
The good news is that hardly anyone was at USBA so the inconvenience factor was negligible. I doubt the game-had it been played- would have had many more than 500 people there. It was a nice touch to have the players play a 4 on 4 scrimmage starring both coaches and Ben Simon's daughter. It was fun. Matt McD and Simon appeared to be having a blast playing. Reliving the glory days!! LOL
Still, this is the second time since the team has been back from suspension that the ball was dropped regarding timely cancellation of a game. In year 2 or 3 back from suspension, Wheeling's bus broke down and the game wasn't cancelled until the scheduled starting time despite the fact that Wheeling hadn't even made it to Columbus and had no replacement bus at the time of the cancellation.
The organization, and perhaps the league, should develop a better protocol regarding travel delays/cancellations.
I agree with Elvis on this and naturally, disagree with danc. What a surprise! How can a team who is hosting an event be at fault for travel delays by the visiting team?? Another mindless comment, per usual. If anything, like Elvis said, they could have updated us a little more. But I wouldn't be surprised if they were told by Evansville that they would arrive on time and had anticipated a delay. You would hope that Evansville left early considering the weather. But it would appear that didn't happen. I'd also be willing to bet that Cyclones management can't just up and cancel a game - even with obviously bad weather. That decision would have to come down from the league.
I'm glad the team is going to give us all the ability to choose another game to attend because the make up game might not be on a day I can make it. I think the scrimmage game was a great idea! They could have easily just told us to drive home safe and given us nothing. I think blaming management for last night would be ridiculous. But that's par for danc's course. |
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danc
(The Next Level!)
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 2:49:05 PM
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Originally posted by PsychFan
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Originally posted by danc
Cyclones management dropped the ball on this.
They obviously didn't monitor Evansville's progess (or lack thereof) in getting to Cincinnati despite the inclement weather. If they had, it would have been clear by 5pm that Evansville wasn't going to get to USBA on time and, at the very least, a severely delayed start should have been announced.
The good news is that hardly anyone was at USBA so the inconvenience factor was negligible. I doubt the game-had it been played- would have had many more than 500 people there. It was a nice touch to have the players play a 4 on 4 scrimmage starring both coaches and Ben Simon's daughter. It was fun. Matt McD and Simon appeared to be having a blast playing. Reliving the glory days!! LOL
Still, this is the second time since the team has been back from suspension that the ball was dropped regarding timely cancellation of a game. In year 2 or 3 back from suspension, Wheeling's bus broke down and the game wasn't cancelled until the scheduled starting time despite the fact that Wheeling hadn't even made it to Columbus and had no replacement bus at the time of the cancellation.
The organization, and perhaps the league, should develop a better protocol regarding travel delays/cancellations.
I agree with Elvis on this and naturally, disagree with danc. What a surprise! How can a team who is hosting an event be at fault for travel delays by the visiting team?? Another mindless comment, per usual. If anything, like Elvis said, they could have updated us a little more. But I wouldn't be surprised if they were told by Evansville that they would arrive on time and had anticipated a delay. You would hope that Evansville left early considering the weather. But it would appear that didn't happen. I'd also be willing to bet that Cyclones management can't just up and cancel a game - even with obviously bad weather. That decision would have to come down from the league.
I'm glad the team is going to give us all the ability to choose another game to attend because the make up game might not be on a day I can make it. I think the scrimmage game was a great idea! They could have easily just told us to drive home safe and given us nothing. I think blaming management for last night would be ridiculous. But that's par for danc's course.
You and logic are not good friends.
Try to follow this...I'll make it simple as I can:
1) Organization A is hosting an event involving organization B.
2) This event has occurred numerous times.
3) Organization B normally arrives at certain hour..
4) Certain hour has come and gone and organization B has not arrived and organization A is aware of this
5) Organization A contacts organization B and gathers information about organization B's location. Together they try to determine an expected arrival time.
6) Expected arrival time is determined and event is either delayed or cancelled.
Not too difficult for most to follow, at least for those with an IQ above room temperature. Somewhere from point 4 on, there was error involved. Capiche?
I have been a huge proponent and supporter of Cyclones management since the return from suspension. They have done a marvelous job rebuilding the hockey market and provided fans with Championship teams and a generally enjoyable product. Last night is no big deal...I just opined on it. Standard stuff for a message board.
Nonetheless they (management) are not above criticism. I have offered very little over the years. So happens that I didn't like a few personnel moves and thought last night could have been handled better. I'm sure that if anyone from the Cyclones organization bothers to read this insignificant message board, that they will lose no sleep over my few, specific criticisms. LOL
You are yet another example of why universal democracy is a very poor idea. |
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bags
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 6:37:44 PM
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Don't forget another point last night. Many communities had issued Level
2& 3 snow emergencies. For level 3, tickets would be given for non
emergency travel. I left King's Island area at 4:25 and got home to Delhi
at 7:00 PM. One hour was spent on the 6th street nightmare. At 4PM a call from
Evansville should have told the story. Unless up to Sparta, call the game and
send the message out.
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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 8:16:55 PM
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To leave the night before or earlier in the day would have cost Evansville thousands of dollars they did not budget for with hotel and per diem. Plus, the bus company was scheduled to pick up the team in Evansville at a certain time. It's not as simple as some of you make it sound for what you think Evansville should have done.
There have been numerous occasions in minor pro hockey where start times have been pushed back an hour or two waiting for a team to arrive in town due to weather, traffic issues or the bus broke down.
An hour or so delay in the start time was probably what the Cyclones and Evansville thought the case might be when the team was still stuck in Louisville around 5pm. There was really not much else the Cyclones or Evansville could do but wait it out as long as they could to try and make it. |
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Edited by - Donnie Hockey on 12/07/2013 8:21:51 PM |
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dbc
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Posted - 12/07/2013 : 8:33:42 PM
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| Dont know who monitors this site but I think the Cyclones owe the fans an explanation oif why the game was called so late. Those fans who did show up were put in peril by this lte decision. As I said I was told at 2PM by the Cyclones office that Evansville was in town and the gaem would be played. Checked the web site one last time before leaving for the game when I saw the announcement. We can speculate all we want but we deserve an explanation either here or on the web page |
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SCUBA
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Posted - 12/08/2013 : 11:16:50 PM
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Originally posted by dbc
Dont know who monitors this site but I think the Cyclones owe the fans an explanation oif why the game was called so late. Those fans who did show up were put in peril by this lte decision. As I said I was told at 2PM by the Cyclones office that Evansville was in town and the gaem would be played. Checked the web site one last time before leaving for the game when I saw the announcement. We can speculate all we want but we deserve an explanation either here or on the web page
Sorry, the fans who chose to brave the elements to see a hockey game put themselves in peril, I fail to see how any decision by the Cyclones put any fans safety in question. it's unfortunate that fans braved the elements to watch hockey but no one forced you into your cars. |
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bags
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Posted - 12/09/2013 : 06:19:40 AM
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Your very right SCUBA on that point the same way maybe the same should
have been Evansville's way. If they were in Louisville around 5 PM, good
weather means they only make it in by 6:30 earliest. Call should have come
to Cincinnati the trip is off and Cyclones could alert media by 5:15 PM.
Ask Elmira what happens when their bus slides off an icy road. No one was
killed but history has claimed many sport's teams due to travel accidents. |
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