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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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 Posted - 10/10/2014 : 9:02:58 PM
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Originally posted by cMan2KellyCup
Bags, that alignment works great... I would think however that McKenna would be looking for the 30th team to generate the 30-30-30 that Elvis was mentioning.... for the sake of fareness I anticipate a six division format for the future years
Just noticed I forgot Idaho in the Pacific. Adding them and moving
Colorado over to the Central makes sense. Still like K-Wings and
Fort Wayne in the North with Wheeling and Quad City with us in the
Midwest. If Las Vegas comes back that's 29 leaving one more city
for 30. Would love to get Louisville back or maybe Knoxville for the
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)
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Posted - 10/11/2014 : 11:52:59 AM
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Originally posted by cMan2KellyCup
and Psych, the AHL has made it pretty obvious that they want no more than 30... the NHL will probably never again expand and so 30 is the cap forever into space and time
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You keep missing the point. What else is new. I'm not saying that the AHL will have more than 30 teams. Never said that. I'm saying that the NHL clubs will opt to move their affiliation to ECHL teams in the "Pacific" division. The AHL teams currently be playing along the East Coast may end up being without a home. SMH. Get your facts straight. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 10/11/2014 : 1:09:25 PM
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Sure an NHL team can pull their affiliation in order to place their prospects closer but unless they also acquire the franchise rights Stockton isn't going to suddenly become an AHL team.
Let me use ANaheim as an example. They currently send their AAA prospects to Norfolk, which understandable is a pain in the butt. The Ducks has every right to search a location closer to Anaheim for their prospects. However, they do not own the AHL franchise that's operation in Norfolk. Therefore they would have to purchase an AHL franchise in order to move their affiliate. Now, there are several NHL teams out west that own all of or part of their AHL teams. In this case it's much easier to make a move but they still have to deal with the legalities if things like building leases and approval of the AHL. Also, keep in mind that while a team like San Jose owns their AHL affiliate and might think it would great to move the whole thing to Stockton leaving Worcester in the lurch, Stockton's ownership might not agree. San Jose would then either seek out an alternate market, or purchase the Thunder. Regardless, it's not as easy as it sounds.
When it's all said and done there will no doubt be more shifting in the alignment of teams throughout the North American minor league system. Hopefully, when it all sorts out over the next few seasons we'll be left a cohesive system, which stable, sustainable teams. |
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PsychFan
(Finally Got A Star!)
98 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2014 : 1:27:00 PM
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Originally posted by elvis77
Sure an NHL team can pull their affiliation in order to place their prospects closer but unless they also acquire the franchise rights Stockton isn't going to suddenly become an AHL team.
Let me use ANaheim as an example. They currently send their AAA prospects to Norfolk, which understandable is a pain in the butt. The Ducks has every right to search a location closer to Anaheim for their prospects. However, they do not own the AHL franchise that's operation in Norfolk. Therefore they would have to purchase an AHL franchise in order to move their affiliate. Now, there are several NHL teams out west that own all of or part of their AHL teams. In this case it's much easier to make a move but they still have to deal with the legalities if things like building leases and approval of the AHL. Also, keep in mind that while a team like San Jose owns their AHL affiliate and might think it would great to move the whole thing to Stockton leaving Worcester in the lurch, Stockton's ownership might not agree. San Jose would then either seek out an alternate market, or purchase the Thunder. Regardless, it's not as easy as it sounds.
When it's all said and done there will no doubt be more shifting in the alignment of teams throughout the North American minor league system. Hopefully, when it all sorts out over the next few seasons we'll be left a cohesive system, which stable, sustainable teams.
One thing you failed to mention is that an AHL team MUST have an NHL affiliation. Therefore, if an NHL team had interest in moving a club out west, they would certainly have the ability to do so provided that the Thunder (your example) bought the rights to an AHL team. Or the NHL team decided to buy the team outright. It may be a complicated process, but it IS happening.
Feel free to play the "what if" game all you want. But when it happens (and it will), you know where you heard it first. |
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elvis77
(Loves To Post!)
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Posted - 10/12/2014 : 4:30:56 PM
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Originally posted by PsychFan
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Originally posted by elvis77
Sure an NHL team can pull their affiliation in order to place their prospects closer but unless they also acquire the franchise rights Stockton isn't going to suddenly become an AHL team.
Let me use ANaheim as an example. They currently send their AAA prospects to Norfolk, which understandable is a pain in the butt. The Ducks has every right to search a location closer to Anaheim for their prospects. However, they do not own the AHL franchise that's operation in Norfolk. Therefore they would have to purchase an AHL franchise in order to move their affiliate. Now, there are several NHL teams out west that own all of or part of their AHL teams. In this case it's much easier to make a move but they still have to deal with the legalities if things like building leases and approval of the AHL. Also, keep in mind that while a team like San Jose owns their AHL affiliate and might think it would great to move the whole thing to Stockton leaving Worcester in the lurch, Stockton's ownership might not agree. San Jose would then either seek out an alternate market, or purchase the Thunder. Regardless, it's not as easy as it sounds.
When it's all said and done there will no doubt be more shifting in the alignment of teams throughout the North American minor league system. Hopefully, when it all sorts out over the next few seasons we'll be left a cohesive system, which stable, sustainable teams.
One thing you failed to mention is that an AHL team MUST have an NHL affiliation. Therefore, if an NHL team had interest in moving a club out west, they would certainly have the ability to do so provided that the Thunder (your example) bought the rights to an AHL team. Or the NHL team decided to buy the team outright. It may be a complicated process, but it IS happening.
Feel free to play the "what if" game all you want. But when it happens (and it will), you know where you heard it first.
Nope, I actually read it about 6 months or so ago. And while I'm not saying that it isn't going to happen, because it is, I'm just saying it's not going to be quick or easy.
I'd imagine Bakersfield will be the first to move up since Edmonton came in and bought them. If I'm not mistaken, Edmonton also owns their AHL franchise so I wouldn't be surprised to see Bako and OKC switch places in the system.
Ontario could likely be the next to move. AEG owns 50% of the Kings, and is also a part of the ownership groups for the Manchester Monarchs, Reading Royals as well as the Reign.
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"and i don't give a damn 'bout my bad reputation" - joan jett
"beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - benjamin franklin
"is that a pulled pork sandwich i smell?"
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
865 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2014 : 4:50:52 PM
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
399 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2014 : 11:22:05 AM
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Originally posted by sdcooper9
This is a bit off topic... Does anyone else find it odd that ECHL.com & cycloneshockey.com aren't boasting the added teams at all? When it was announced I hadn't been following the rumors so it was a surprise and I read up on WCPO.com and even CBSsports.com. The league website just added the new logos to the top banner and didn't provide any other info... Just really strange to me as it seems like a pretty big deal.
This was the news release from the ECHL. It appeared on the site for a few days and was sent out via their newsletter and Twitter feeds. The league didn't regard it as a merger, but as accepting 7 new teams.
http://echl.com/echl-accepts-seven-new-members-p194005 |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2014 : 11:17:15 AM
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| The Cyclones only have to play Quad City out of all this mess.... I assume they thought this was all just business as usual |
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