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somebeach
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Posted - 05/27/2010 :  7:49:07 PM  Show Profile
http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_b0d4e12c-69d6-11df-97de-001cc4c03286.html

http://wjbc.com/TabId/7865/default.aspx?AID=16164

Just a couple of articles about 2 of the IHL teams jumping to the CHL. Could Fort Wayne be headed to the ECHL?

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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hrc666
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Posted - 05/27/2010 :  8:08:06 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by somebeach

http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_b0d4e12c-69d6-11df-97de-001cc4c03286.html

http://wjbc.com/TabId/7865/default.aspx?AID=16164

Just a couple of articles about 2 of the IHL teams jumping to the CHL. Could Fort Wayne be headed to the ECHL?



It looks like FTW will be in the CHL. Me thinks that the Frankes (FTW owners) aren't welcome in the ECHL for reasons that aren't public.

Anyone who is interested in following this developement can follow this thread:

http://finishyourcheck.com/index.php?showtopic=40411&st=80

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Donnie Hockey
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Posted - 05/27/2010 :  8:31:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donnie Hockey's Homepage
If Fort Wayne joins the CHL, you'll see Indianapolis rejoin the league in the foreseeable future.

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Lisa_19_78
(The Next Level!)

USA
230 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2010 :  09:18:30 AM  Show Profile
http://qconline.com/archives/qco/display.php?id=494773

Quad City's rumored announcement. The end of the article quotes an "offical announcement expected next week."

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dbc
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Posted - 05/28/2010 :  11:51:42 AM  Show Profile
Maybe someone who really understands the legal and organizational issues can help me with this. There are two issues that would seem to me to be key to determining whether an IHL team want s to join the ECHL or the CHL: affiliations and roster issues:

1)The ECHL teams now all seem to have NHL/AHL affiliations with all the rules around contract issues, etc etc. I don't think the IHL/CHL has any such affiliations. They are both true independent leagues. If one of them joined the ECHL would they need to get an affiliation? Is it a requirement of the ECHL to have such a relationship. If so, would someone like the FW owners want to give up a certain amount of control?

2) The ECHL also has rules as to what the roster can look like in terms of numbers of players with two way contracts, number of prior minor leagues games allowed for a certain number of players, payroll restrictions etc etc. Nor sure owners of current IHL teams would want such restrictions and, even if they did, would their current rosters be allowed in the ECHL or would they have to make changes etc.

In total it just seems easier for the IHL teams to merge into the CHL where both leagues are independent rather than join the ECHL where there seem to be more restrictions and control or influence by affiliates.

The northern division now has seven teams, the western Conference 8 teams in two divisions, and the Southern Division only 4. Would seem the ECHL should concentrate on building up their presence in the South rather then looking for new teams in the Midwest or at least get a team back east where you would have three American Conference divisions with four teams each (Cinn, Toledo, KZoo and Wheeling), ( Reading, Trenton, Elmira, new team), (Florida, Greenville, SC, Gwinnett) and the current two four team divisions in the National Conference.

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dbc
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Posted - 05/28/2010 :  2:01:40 PM  Show Profile
Lots of info in the last few days In The Fort Wayne Gazette. They keep going back and forth as to IHL, ECHL, CHL although they say that ECHL Commissioner McKenna says there are no discussions on going at all with the IHL or any of its teams. As an example of the issues I asked about in the last post, here is a quote from one of the articles in the Gazette:

"The CHL is unionized, however, and the Komets have not had to deal with the Professional Hockey Players Association since leaving the old IHL in 1999. While the IHL was slated to skate a 70-game schedule next season, the CHL plays a 64-game slate. The IHLs salary cap is $13,000 a week, compared with $10,450 a week for the CHL."
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dtwells
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  08:27:54 AM  Show Profile
ECHL salary is 11,800 - if the teams are looking to be able to spend the most on players.
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dbc
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  11:30:00 AM  Show Profile
Link to article in Fort Wayne gazette on similarities and differences within the IHL and CHL. Note the statement that any merger or cross scheduling could allow the Komets to keep the current roster makeup of 8 veterans versus 4 in the CHL.

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100531/SPORTS0601/305319948/1210/SPORTS06
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somebeach
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Posted - 06/01/2010 :  6:46:01 PM  Show Profile
http://www.ihl-hockey.com/press/league/index.html?article_id=894

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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dbc
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Posted - 06/02/2010 :  11:05:50 AM  Show Profile
Its official. Announcement in the last posting. Read below for four reactions:

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100602/SPORTS0601/306029972/1008/SPORTS

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20100602/SPORTS/6020332/CHL-joining-forces-with-IHL-

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100601/BLOGS11/100609947

http://www.themonitor.com/sports/ihl-39341-chl-intent.html


Edited by - dbc on 06/02/2010 11:14:32 AM
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dbc
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Posted - 06/02/2010 :  11:29:05 AM  Show Profile
A few more reactions. Liked the first one which debunks that the new league will have a better product than the ECHL.

http://blogs.caller.com/rajan/archives/2010/06/qa-time-ihl-chl.html

http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100602/SPORTS/6020326/1002
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dbc
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865 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2010 :  11:54:39 AM  Show Profile
Great read for hockey history buffs with info about old Cincinnati teams included:

http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100604/SPORTS/6040318

Also good summary of the issues the merger faces:

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100603/BLOGS11/100609822/1008/SPORTS

Edited by - dbc on 06/04/2010 11:58:56 AM
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psychlone
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USA
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Posted - 06/08/2010 :  11:10:56 AM  Show Profile
It looks like the only CHL/IHL team with an AHL and NHL affiliate is the Odessa Jackalopes. I don't know the ins and outs of franchise ownership but it seems like it would make more sense for them to be in the ECHL. If the ECHL could pick up a team like that, Reno starts to play, and they start up teams in San Diego and Fresno (cities on their wish list) they could start a 3rd division in the West.
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somebeach
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Posted - 06/08/2010 :  6:39:26 PM  Show Profile
Hold the phone.......

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20100608/SPORTS/6080332/CHL-merger-not-a-done-deal

http://arenadigest.com/201006082997/hockey/minor-league-hockey/hold-your-horses-chlihl-merger-hitting-obstacles

Seems there are some road blocks in the merger.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

ZINGER!!!!!
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psychlone
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USA
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Posted - 06/09/2010 :  10:49:29 AM  Show Profile
Definitely bad for Ft. Wayne. It looks like a few of the IHL teams may not play next year which would leave them with fewer teams to play and the Komets have a long history and they love their team up there.
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psychlone
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USA
44 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2010 :  09:21:44 AM  Show Profile
It looks like Evansville will jump from the AAHL to play in the CHL/IHL next year. They acquired the rights to the IHL Muskegon team.

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/hockey/professional/minor/prairiethunder/article_a2f3bc90-7e67-11df-8403-001cc4c03286.html
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