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jevers
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 Posted - 05/28/2014 : 08:52:18 AM
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GAME 1 - Cincinnati at Alaska (Sullivan Arena) - Fri. 5/30, 11:15 pm ET
GAME 2 - Cincinnati at Alaska (Sullivan Arena) - Sat. 5/31, 11:15 pm ET
GAME 3 - Cincinnati at Alaska (Sullivan Arena) - Mon. 6/2, 11:15 pm ET
GAME 4 - Alaska at Cincinnati (U.S. Bank Arena) - Fri. 6/6, 7:35 pm ET
GAME 5 - Alaska at Cincinnati (U.S. Bank Arena) - Sat. 6/7, 7:35 pm ET *
GAME 6 - Alaska at Cincinnati (U.S. Bank Arena) - Mon. 6/9, 7:35 pm ET *
GAME 7 - Cincinnati at Alaska (Sullivan Arena) - Wed. 6/11, 11:15 pm ET *
*If necessary
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cMan2KellyCup
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2014 : 09:34:32 AM
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
399 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2014 : 10:21:20 AM
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Ouch! I fully understand the travel issues, but this schedule is highly inequitable. I can't believe that the ECHL formulated this plan and that Harris and Ropp went along with it.
Let's hope that the Cyclone maintain their road game prowess. |
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elvis77
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Posted - 05/28/2014 : 10:51:08 AM
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They had the Alaska v Bako game on at Holy Grail after the Cyclones game 6 win. All I can say is, The Cyclones are far from physical but I've seen more physicality in pairs figure skating than I saw in a period and a half of that game. It makes me recall what Vegas and Idaho fans were saying in in 08 and 10 respectively, and that was how physical the Cyclones were. Those teams were far from physical compared to the competition they faced in the, at the time, American Conference playoffs. I'm not saying the team should change up what they're doing completely, but if there was a time to put the emphasis on "finishing their bumps" it would be this series.
Alaska plays on Olympic ice, but we've got about half a dozen players still around that when on that preseason road trip which should be a big help. I think the speed and skill of our forwards will translate well to the big ice, the question is, can we defend on the big ice and in my opinion, that's probably one of the biggest keys to the series. |
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
399 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2014 : 10:57:25 AM
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They play on Olympic ice? Hmmm...not sure how our D will do with that. That's a whole different game. It definitely impacts the goaltender's angles.
How was Alaska's speed? A friend of mine who spends a lot of time out west has taken in a number of Western Conference games and mentioned that the teams lack speed. Should be an interesting match up.
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dbc
(Been Here Awhile)
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Posted - 05/28/2014 : 11:27:00 AM
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Two differences between the teams. Your thoughts inn both?
1) Rink size: Al;aska is an international size rink and thus they play half their games there and half in North American rinks. They are use to both and can adjust. We don't play any games in the larger rink so the question is can we adjust.
The overall difference is that the international rinks are 15 feet wider ( 100 ft vs 85ft) This can cause havoc for defensemen who are use to taking a certain angle on rushing player and gets beat to the outside.
The distance from the end boards to the goal line also is bigger going from 11 ft to 13 ft. Really allows a lot more play behind the net and once again can cause havoc by taking the wrong angle and giving the offense more alternatives. You will see lots of players going behind the net and many plays originating there. Two feet might not sound like much but wait till you see it on TV. The net looks like it is in the middle of the zone. M
To me the biggest adjustment though is the difference in the size of the three zones. In the international rinks, each of the three zones is 57 feet long from the goal line to the blue line and between blue lines. In the north American rinks the two end zones are 64 feet from goal line to blue line and only 50 feet between blue lines. This changes the shooting lanes and passing lanes for the offense, causes the goalie to play different angles, and makes the defense spread out more and have longer. Think of it as like watching a tv show with the
wrong screen dimensions. The space gets squashed from blue line to goal line and pushed out to the sides.
2) Age ( esperience?)
The Cyclones have 12 players born between 1986 and 1989 and the Aces have 11. However the clones have 11 players born between 1990 and 1992 while the Aces have only 6. At the other end the cyclones have no players born before 1986 while the Aces have seven. In fact the aces have 11 players born in 1987 and earlier while the Clones have only three. The age old age vs experience argument that never seems to be settled.
Thoughts on the rink and age factors?
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Edited by - dbc on 05/28/2014 11:33:23 AM |
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Reggie Dunlop
(The Next Level!)
USA
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Posted - 05/28/2014 : 12:05:41 PM
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DBC, I think the rink size is the bigger concern. You're correct about play making and angles on the Olympic size ice. My hope is that many of the Cyclone players have played on that type of sheet at some point in their careers and can adapt. For instance, players like Wysopal and Dalhuisen who have played in Europe have a lot of experience on the Olympic ice. On the other hand, the larger size may also allow our playmakers to generate more opportunities and use their speed.
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
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Posted - 05/28/2014 : 12:05:41 PM
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Saw them play final game against Vegas. Alaska has speed and size,
but played to the level of Vegas in the smaller rink. Goaltender
I saw was their second and any contact rattled him for at least
5 minutes of play. Vegas had theirs dumped twice with no penalty.
Greenville has a team just like theirs. May be an issue the larger
surface because our defensemen tend to get beat when over committing.
As for the 3-3-1 format, I still prefer the 3-4 format w/ Alaska's
choice on first three home or last four home. |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
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Posted - 05/28/2014 : 12:22:45 PM
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| If we can win 2 out of the 3 games in Alaska, we can win the cup... its what happened in each of the three East series... my friend lives in Boise and she said Alaska was not impressive at all when they played the Steelheads and she said she can only imagine having to play one of the east teams in the final... the west was all about finesse and speed, and the east adds physicality and brutality.... if we can take 2 of the first three, we can come back and match it here... prepare for a huge party (knocking on wood) |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2014 : 7:48:22 PM
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| and I do agree with Bags, it should have been 3-4 with Alaska having the choice... it used to be that teams with higher seeds in the NHL would be given the choice of home ice, but all the teams picked home ice so they essentially made it a mandate... I really do believe that Game 7's should always be at the higher seed, however due to Alaska's distance from Cincinnati 3-4 would have been easier... |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
Boards + visitors = broken bones! |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
2224 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2014 : 8:34:24 PM
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I know it's not the best answer but making two round trips in the series
just for game seven doesn't make sense. At that point why not go back to the
2-3-2 format which still could allow either team to finish without the 2nd
Alaska trip. Although we have Red's games all three days, maybe the media will
give a championship the deserved level coverage. I've been guilty of missing
games because out of town twice and the others for disgust of parking due to
the Red's. Next weekend I plan to "suck-it-up" and do what's needed to see all
games played. Hat's off to those who have made the games. My one I saw was their
worst home effort this post season (Tuesday's Greenville nightmare). |
Edited by - bags on 05/29/2014 2:08:00 PM |
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somebeach
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USA
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Posted - 05/29/2014 : 08:35:34 AM
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| Just a heads-up...........the reds are also playing at GABP when we have the home games. |
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2014 : 11:29:32 AM
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| bags, whoever wins this series I do not anticipate this series having to go seven.... im thinking the Kelly Cup will be awarded here... not one series this entire playoff has gone to seven, I dont see this one doing the same |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
Boards + visitors = broken bones! |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
USA
2224 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2014 : 2:11:19 PM
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Originally posted by cMan2KellyCup
bags, whoever wins this series I do not anticipate this series having to go seven.... im thinking the Kelly Cup will be awarded here... not one series this entire playoff has gone to seven, I dont see this one doing the same
I hope that's the case. Going to be an expensive Game 7 if needed ! |
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cMan2KellyCup
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
540 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2014 : 5:18:36 PM
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| I hope it gets awarded here anyways, bags... I cant afford to go to Alaska! |
KELLY CUP CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010
AMERICAN/EASTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS- 2008, 2010, 2014
DIVISION CHAMPIONS- 1996, 2008, 2009, 2013
2008 BRABHAM CUP CHAMPIONS
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SCUBA
(Been Here Awhile)
USA
584 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2014 : 11:02:02 PM
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| look, i've read it about a dozen times and you know?.....at the end of the season if we are still talking about rink size then what a shame that would be. I would hope we would be talking about heart, mental mistakes and the such but i'm not thinking rink size means diddly. Alaska still has to defend the same ice surface as Cincinnati does. Sure there is more open space but Cincy will skate in the same space. Angles? i've heard this one too but shouldn't a skater use angles based upon the position of the puck? I'm just not seeing this as an advantage for either team. It appears this is giving some fans nightmares, we know the clones can score, maybe with the added space this offense will light it up. The only uneasiness I feel is the complete uncertainty? Any, and I mean any team could have come out of the east, it is that close......but the Ace's first round was against las Vegas...what a freaking joke. This is pure speculation, we very might see a sweep this series.....from whom I have no idea. Either we may underestimate the West or the West runs headlong into a brick wall from the east. I know this for certain I don't believe that the Ace's player for player are any better than the competition we have already faced. oh, I suppose I just contradicted myself but I just cannot get an accurate feel for this series. |
Edited by - SCUBA on 05/29/2014 11:04:21 PM |
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