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elvis77
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Posted - 06/02/2014 : 8:57:27 PM
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The key as some have alluded too is taking Alaska's speed in the neutral zone away. In game 2 the 'Clones did a great job of it. It was almost like watching Guy Boucher's 1-3-1 from his brief time in Tampa Bay. There were a lot of time when the 'Clones rush wasn't going to be effective the forward would just dump it and stop. All 5 players would be in the neutral zone. It really clogged up Alaska's break out. On Monday they for fore checking like they do on the small ice. It wasn't effective and Alaska had a lot of odd man rushes. That's not saying Alaska can't play in the offensive zone, but their offense seems to revolve around using the extra space to pull guys out of position and create mismatches. I'm not sure how effective that will be on small ice. |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 06:36:04 AM
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Now that Game 7 is a real chance, the less I like about Wednesday June 11th. The Cyclones would have to play Monday night, board a plane Tuesday morning and arrive in Alaska sometime Tuesday night. Then the next night they have the whole season on the line playing in a flight fatigued, late night Cincinnati time mode just like game 1. ECHL should have made game 7 no earlier than Thursday night to give both teams a one day off. Due to the mileage between cities, 2nd trip for game 7 only still seems idiotic to me. |
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jsun51
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 07:49:16 AM
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Both teams will be facing the same travel, though. Do you think they'll share charters to Alaska? Can't imagine there are many options to Anchorage from Cincinnati in such a short period of time. |
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cloneinator
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 08:17:55 AM
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Very tough loss last night obviously both teams wanted to win very badly. While of course Alaska would love to put it away here, they also have to feel very good about taking even one out of three and going back home for a game seven. I hated this seven game schedule when I saw it for this exact reason.
As far as both teams having the same travel distances, Alaska is use to long flights. They spend a whole season doing them. |
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bags
(Person With Nothing Better To Do!)
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 09:04:25 AM
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quote: Originally posted by cloneinator
Very tough loss last night obviously both teams wanted to win very badly. While of course Alaska would love to put it away here, they also have to feel very good about taking even one out of three and going back home for a game seven. I hated this seven game schedule when I saw it for this exact reason.
As far as both teams having the same travel distances, Alaska is use to long flights. They spend a whole season doing them.
Agree with the travel but don't underestimate the game time issue. We will be playing 11 PM our time on Wednesday. Alaska is playing afternoon games here as far as their "time-clocks" are concerned. |
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AwesomeSauce
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AwesomeSauce
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 10:13:52 AM
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quote: Originally posted by SCUBA
So we have discussed how the bigger ice surface in Alaska plays a factor in this series.......any views on the smaller ice surface? Does Cincinnati get the advantage here or does it even the teams up.
I would also like to think that being home again would give us an advantage however I fear that Reds game are going to put a great big crapolla on that. Every garage on the banks will be for pass holders and such and pretty much suck. I would like to believe that US bank would be filled but i'm not having pleasant thoughts about attendance.
I don't think we'll see a big crowd unless the Cyclones are in position to win the Cup on Monday. Weekend games will hopefully draw more than the 1500 or so we've been averaging though. Really sucks the Reds are in town throughout. |
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Reggie Dunlop
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 2:11:03 PM
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Looks like Coach Simon will be writing a check. This is his quote to the Alaska Daily News after last night's egregiously officiated game.
“Absolutely,’’ said Simon. “The refereeing in this series is so inconsistent, and they’re not accountable. This is the Kelly Cup Finals. It’s disappointing, and it goes both ways — I’m sure Rob Murray is over there with some complaints.’’ |
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SCUBA
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 2:32:59 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Reggie Dunlop
Looks like Coach Simon will be writing a check. This is his quote to the Alaska Daily News after last night's egregiously officiated game.
“Absolutely,’’ said Simon. “The refereeing in this series is so inconsistent, and they’re not accountable. This is the Kelly Cup Finals. It’s disappointing, and it goes both ways — I’m sure Rob Murray is over there with some complaints.’’
I think Simon will be fine, in fact if I was an owner of the team I would pay for the fine for coach Simon. I'm not a ref hound but the truth of the matter is the refs have been deplorable on both sides, he's right, there isn't any accountability, and who can we count on to over see the officials? Mr Bad call himself Joe Ernst...really?
I actually believe last nights game was terrible and we are lucky we got away with a 2-0 loss and not something to the tune of 5-0. Giving way too many shots. The offensive was lack luster and anything thrown Coleman's way was at the Aces Logo. We did a far better job interuppting their breakout and neutral zone play in the first and second but it appeared to me the Clones fet we were playing half ice hockey.....our side. The third period was a combinbation of Clone's icing the puck or grabs from Madore. Any number of mad scrables in front of the net was how this one was going down, and cannot we get a PP goal for once fellas. I'm not seeing the rest of the series through rose colored glasses, so far the Aces have taken it to them. Sorry about the rant...I will take my meds before next game. |
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Reggie Dunlop
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Posted - 06/04/2014 : 4:20:31 PM
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Here's what I think is a reasonable and relatively probable scenario: the Cyclone win two games here and then hope for the best in game 7 in Alaska. Virtually a one game championship. Thoughts?
(Let the record show that I'd prefer they win all three here.) |
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cMan2KellyCup
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Posted - 06/04/2014 : 4:25:01 PM
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Coach Simon was absolutley right... the refs need to be consistent, fair and right during a league finals series... and if they are not they need to be re-evaluated and it needs to affect assignments for the next regular season... the Kelly Cup Finals is the ECHL's highlight moment and the Cyclones and Aces worked hard to earn the right to be there, and the refs need to work like they earned the right to be there as well |
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cloneinator
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 08:19:44 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Reggie Dunlop
Here's what I think is a reasonable and relatively probable scenario: the Cyclone win two games here and then hope for the best in game 7 in Alaska. Virtually a one game championship. Thoughts?
(Let the record show that I'd prefer they win all three here.)
Unfortunately and realistically, I would agree. cMan2KellyCup made a post before the series started indicating the importance of the boys taking 2 of 3 in Alaska, which of course didn't happen. While stranger things have happened, I just don't see the 'Clones sweeping them here. For the series to make it back to Alaska with a chance for them to win it at home in front of their crowd would be huge for them, and a very tough hill to climb. In short, I am not as optimistic as I would like to be. I sure hope I am wrong and all of you are are saying "I told ya so." |
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Reggie Dunlop
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 10:00:44 AM
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Even though the Cyclone are down a game, I'm really stoked for this weekend. I think the team will feel more comfortable and at ease back at home and playing at their normal time. It's my hope that the crowds are decent and able to create an energizing environment. All we need is a three game win streak! |
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SCUBA
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Posted - 06/05/2014 : 2:51:51 PM
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Well, there are a number of things to work on, we have GOT to limit their number of chances. This is so cliche but Friday's game is a must win.......I am thy of little faith for either team that wins their 3rd game. Drives my wife nuts, with my pessimism. I'm thankful that i'm not playing the series because the Clones last loss totally broke my back. I'll be there Friday night but my frustration will be on a short trigger, I won't sit around to watch a loss. I've also mentioned on another site the higher ticket prices, whom ever is responsible should wait at the doors with beaded sweat on their forehead. Fans in Cincy are unlike any I have seen before. Friday, I think we will watch fans dressed in red walking past US Bank Arena in favor of watching a possible loss vs a playoff finals game. heck even i'm leaving the kids at home because of prices. Win friday and i'm there on saturday, A loss tommorrow and I cannot stand watching an elimination game......I get way too disappointed.
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Edited by - SCUBA on 06/05/2014 2:54:20 PM |
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bags
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